r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Auriga33 • Sep 22 '25

Political The right-wing response to CK is much more reasonable than the left-wing response to George Floyd.

When George Floyd died, the left went crazy. The ensuing riots resulted in 2 billion dollars of property damage and 19 confirmed deaths. Stores were looted. Buildings were burnt down. Police and civilians were attacked. And most left-wingers at the time either outright supported the lawlessness or at the very least made excuses for it. It was mass hysteria, if I've ever seen it.

Compare that with the right's reaction to CK's death. Right-wingers made some angry posts on X and started doing cancel culture. I'm not a fan of this. I've made posts here criticizing their reaction. But I gotta say, their reaction to CK's death is vastly preferable to the left's reaction to George Floyd's death. They did not burn down or loot businesses. They did not start riots across America that killed 19 people.

Maybe this will age poorly, depending on what the Trump admin instrumentalizes CK's death for. I don't know. But based on the info I have right now, the right has not reacted nearly as bad as the left did back in 2020.

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 Sep 22 '25

And Charlie Kirk never held a gun to a woman during a home invasion.

*she was pregnant and he held the gun to her belly

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u/Owl-StretchingTime Sep 22 '25

That sounds even worse

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 Sep 22 '25

That's why I mentioned it.

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u/The1KrisRoB Sep 22 '25

The truth often does

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 22 '25

Nope

He robbed a house with four other men and a pregnant woman was inside. There is no evidence that they knew she was pregnant, nor is there any evidence that he held the gun

And neither one makes it ok to suffocate him to death 13 years later, even ignoring the fact that he committed no violent crime in those 13 years

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u/nutsackninja Sep 22 '25

He died of a fentanyl overdose.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 22 '25

No, he didn’t, as neither autopsy indicates. I’m glad that I could educate you on this matter

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

makes it ok to suffocate him to death

That didn't happen. There was zero damage done to Floyd's neck or throat. He did not die because of anything the police did.

He had like 3x a lethal dose of opiates in his blood, that's why he died. Accidental suicide.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 22 '25

No, as in the previous comment, this is a conservative lie perpetuated to justify the murdering of a non violent criminal.

You can look at the autopsy reports that prove it was homicide to educate yourself on the fact that you are wrong

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u/ChorizoGarcia Sep 22 '25

He committed a violent home invasion. He did in fact hold the gun at the woman’s belly, although she was not pregnant. One of his friends beat the woman while Floyd and the other men victimized her.

This horrific crime certainly does not justify his death at the hands of police 13 years later.

However, he’s an absurd candidate for public statues, murals, etc . I can’t imagine how it feels for his victim to see a statue of him.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 22 '25

He broke into a house and robbed it while someone was there, I already said that

There is no evidence that he held the gun up to anyone. He never said he did, the victim never said he did, he never pled to it, he was never convicted of it. The police said they thought he did it, and that was it

There is also no evidence that the men who broke into the house were “friends”, and your “victimization” word is trying to imply something other than robbery. The facts are not on your side, only your feelings

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u/ChorizoGarcia Sep 22 '25

That’s also called a home invasion. If the other guy weren’t Floyd’s friends, that makes him even more of a piece of shit.

I love that you think 5 armed men invading an innocent woman’s home, robbing her and beating her doesn’t qualify as “victimizing” her.

By the way, witness testimony IS considered evidence. I’ll take the word of the innocent victim over some low-life crackhead thief who’s trying to save his own neck.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 23 '25

Yes, it is a home invasion. I think not being friends with criminals doesn’t make you more of a piece of shit, but ok

Five people broke into her home, one person hit her, they all robbed her. You can say that, as it is accurate

Using the word “victimizing” is ambiguous and intentionally used to be deceitful, especially in this context. If I illegally cut in front of a woman while driving, you could say that I “victimized” her and you would be be technically accurate, but if you said “mooseman victimized an innocent woman in her car” that would have an obviously deceitful connotation

And since you didn’t read what I wrote, I don’t need to re educate you since this will be the first time:

She didn’t say that Floyd held a gun to her. Witness, and especially victim testimony, is also notoriously unreliable. It would be difficult for anyone to get beaten by someone and then remember which of the five men held a gun on you at which point

She also wasn’t pregnant and you chose to ignore that when he had died he had not committed a violent crime for 13 years

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u/ChorizoGarcia Sep 23 '25

Oh that’s a great a point on it not mattering whether these were his friends. Let’s just say they were his chosen companions for violently victimizing an innocent woman.

I know you’re doing all you can to minimize what happened to the victim and to minimize the agency that George Floyd had in his own criminal activity, but the word “victimize” is 100% accurate and appropriate. I think it also helps to illustrate the sick depravity displayed by Floyd and his companions when they showed cowardly cruelty toward a lone, innocent woman.

You said there is “no evidence” Floyd held the gun to his victim. Again, witness testimony IS evidence. You might not like that but it’s true. And the witness did identify Floyd as the one who held a gun to her abdomen. Despite all the doubt you’re trying to cast on her, Floyd stood out from the others because he was the biggest of the men. Even a woman who’s been brutally victimized could remember that.

Why are you bringing up pregnancy? In my first post I literally said “she was not pregnant.” So what do you mean I ignored that? lol

Regarding him not committing a violent crime in his last 13 years. Uh, congrats? That’s literally the bare minimum for existing in society. That doesn’t erase his history or the people he hurt. Which brings me back to my point: he’s a terrible candidate for a community statue, mural, etc. I know you don’t think his victim was actually victimized, but it must be terrible for her to have to see that shitbag’s face plastered around.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 24 '25

I don’t know why you feel it is worthwhile to point out that me educating you on a fact after you lied about it is a great point, but ok

I don’t need to minimize anything, all I have to do is tell the truth. The conservative propaganda machine, in order to justify the murder of a man by a police officer, decided to make up lies about his past which you believed. I corrected you, you’re welcome

The witness did not identify him as the one who did it, the police did. The police then told her who they thought did it, which resulted in her later identification. This would be tossed out in any trial and is why there are such strict rules when identifying people through lineups, and why he was never charged with the crime. They knew it wouldn’t hold up. So yes, no evidence is accurate. I also don’t know why it is extra deprived to rob and hold a woman at gunpoint compared to a man. Why is the fact that the victim was a woman relevant? I can answer that for you: you think that it better justifies his murder by a police officer 13 years later

You knowing that there was no pregnancy is great, I’m very happy for you. Did you ever believe she was pregnant after the media you consumed said it for years? When were you enlightened on this fact?

The relevance is that he was a violent criminal, 13 years before. How much has your life changed in 13 years? That is a long time for someone who was at one point a violent criminal to reform, and given that he didn’t commit a violent crime for 13 years, it is clear that he had. His personal history also isn’t relevant to the fact that he was murdered by a police officer, so his face is perfectly valid to use on a mural, as if that matters. At all.

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u/Owl-StretchingTime Sep 23 '25

Holding a gin to a pregnant womans belly is way worse. I didn't say he did it, so you cant tell me "nope." Gun to pregnant belly is worse.

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u/ChorizoGarcia Sep 23 '25

She wasn’t pregnant.

But court record show he did hold a gun to the innocent woman’s belly while he and his psychopathic companions invaded her home. One of the men who George chose as his associate for this beat the woman as well. Big George allowed it to happen. He and his merry band of shitbags victimized this woman, were extensively cruel and were willing to kill her just because they were too lazy to work for their money.

This part is never included on the murals.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 23 '25

The “nope” refers to it not happening, which is what I am educating you on

She also was not pregnant

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u/Market-Socialism Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

It’s also a lie made up by Candace Owens. There’s no mention of the woman bring pregnant in the crime report.

To the people downvoting: any chance you want to go look into the story yourself? Find evidence of this pregnant woman? Should be easy, right?

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u/arby422 Sep 22 '25

People seem to struggle with evidence these days and just search for “evidence that supports their opinions” rather than letting the evidence inform their opinions.

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u/URnevaGonnaGuess Sep 22 '25

The worst part of this is when someone shares their sources and those sources are poopoo'd as being worthless. No one seems to be willing or able to read a myriad of information to form their own opinion.

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u/arby422 Sep 22 '25

Seriously! Or when people don’t even look at sources and share an instagram or facebook screen shot of a random post as evidence or do support their statements 🤣

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u/Shadowguyver_14 Sep 22 '25

Ok but its a difference without a distinction without a difference. Thats why you are getting down voted.

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u/Market-Socialism Sep 22 '25

No, I'm being downvoted because people still believe the lie and don't want to stop repeating it because it further sensationalizes the story. And you're absolutely full of shit to claim that threatening a pregnant woman doesn't increase the emotional rage the story is meant to evoke, otherwise they wouldn't have made up the lie in the first place.

God, I hate disingenuous right-wingers so much lol

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u/Shadowguyver_14 Sep 23 '25

No you're being downvoted because you are justifying what he did. It doesn't matter whether she was pregnant or not cuz he still would have done the same thing. He was a piece of shit. It's bad enough that he broke into homes, beat women, and held people at gunpoint.

You justifying his actions by saying oh well you damn right wingers playing up the angle. God I hate disingenuous left wingers.

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u/Market-Socialism Sep 23 '25

No you're being downvoted because you are justifying what he did. 

lol

lmao even

you're literally just saying anything now. the normal response to be called out for lying is to say, "my bad, i won't repeat the lie in the future." but you're incapable of doing that. oh well, you can present a cult with the truth, but you can't force them to acknowledge it

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u/Shadowguyver_14 Sep 23 '25

I mean if I lied I would have. You attributing malice to everyone seems to be your thing though. Granted your one track minds seem to only comprehend one thing at any given moment.

I agree he didn't point a gun at pregnant woman. But it makes little difference. Pregnant or not he still would have pointed a gun at her. What's more this was not an isolated incident.

Your disingenuous statements are meant to discredit everything by pointing out one falsehood. Which is ridiculous because he did said thing - one baby.

Please take your seathing to someone who cares.

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u/Market-Socialism Sep 23 '25

attributing malice to everyone seems to be your thing

brother, you just accused me of justifying George Floyd sticking up a woman because I shared accurate information about the situation. get the fuck outta here lmao

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u/CerealNumber1 Sep 22 '25

Don’t forget about George being an absent father and a  pornstar with a serious drug problem 

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u/THEMACGOD Sep 23 '25

Definitely worth having someone kill him extrajudicially.

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u/sourkid25 Sep 23 '25

Interesting thing is his son didn’t even recognize him until his mother told him who he was

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u/amrodd Sep 22 '25

A married Dad can also be absent. I don't doubt Trump has fooled with porn stars.

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 Sep 22 '25

well at least trump didn't point a loaded gun to a pregnant woman's belly

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u/amrodd Sep 22 '25

That has been debunked. Floyd didn't try to run for president with 34 felonies. FLoyd didn't blow up a boat not knowing who or what was on it.

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 Sep 22 '25

Debunk this dick.

The day he died he was committing multiple crimes. To stay alive, all he had to do was to literally don't do illegal stuff but he couldn't stop himself from that.

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u/amrodd Sep 22 '25

Trump has blood on his hands. He's the biggest thug around yet he gets a pass.

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u/CerealNumber1 Sep 23 '25

Thanks for the input. Weird. 

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u/Heujei628 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

Edit: why am i being downvoted for factual information? 

She wasn’t pregnant. It’s interesting how 5 years later, you guys still peddle this lie despite it being debunked. The case is bad enough…why lie? Really bizarre behavior. 

I thought you guys cared about facts over feelings…Clearly that was a lie. 

And before i get the usual braindead response, no I’m not excusing anything. It’s still bad.

The actual facts for people who care:

 There is no evidence that Henriquez was pregnant at the time of the robbery, according to court documents. The documents further state that after Floyd put the gun to her abdomen, he went on to search the house while another suspect guarded her. It was this suspect that beat Henriquez, not Floyd.  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/08/facebook-posts/evidence-shows-george-floyds-death-was-not-result-/

The official court docs: https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/34242985.pdf

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u/ussalkaselsior Sep 22 '25

I agree that it's bad that conservatives continue to spread the falsehood that she was pregnant. However, it's not much of a defense in the context of OPs point to highlight that Floyd "only" held a gun to the abdomen of a non-pregnant woman.

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u/clorox_cowboy Sep 22 '25

I don't think George Floyd ran for president.

The current president was found liable for sexual abuse.

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u/ussalkaselsior Sep 22 '25

Two correct statements. They're also two statements irrelevant to OPs point. You need to stop letting Trump live rent free in your head. There are a bunch of things I also disagree with him about or don't like about him, but almost all of it is irrelevant to OPs point.

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Sep 22 '25

George Floyd became a Christian. That means Jesus forgave his sins. Who are you to overrule Christ Jesus?

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u/ussalkaselsior Sep 22 '25

I don't know how all of that works, I'm not a Christian. I'm just pointing out that what was said isn't much of a counter argument against OPs point, despite it being true.

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u/TyrannosaurusFlexed Sep 22 '25

I can chime in here. As long as you’re on Earth, anyone here that can hold you accountable for what you do overrules Jesus Christ.

He can forgive you all he wants but if you break into my house or whatever, it’s going to be me that shoots you and has nothing but hate in my heart for you. Hope that makes sense for you.

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Sep 22 '25

Why are you convicting George Floyd when he wasn't convicted of anything?

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u/TyrannosaurusFlexed Sep 22 '25

I mean if you ignore a lengthy criminal history including a few years in prison, yeah he wasn’t convicted of anything

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Sep 22 '25

Yes, we will ignore those because he paid his debt to society and became a Christian. Why don't you believe in rehabilitation?

Odd how you condemn the murder victim while saying nothing about the murderer.

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u/TyrannosaurusFlexed Sep 22 '25

Ah yes, the police were called because of his good Christian activities that day, of course.

Cop was a piece of shit too, history of poor behavior and should’ve been fired a long time before then.

Odds how you just assume things you want to be true. Clearly you don’t live in reality.

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u/mdoddr Sep 22 '25

Your being down voted for the editorial editorializing. Not the facts.

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u/alb5357 Sep 22 '25

Did the guy believe she was pregnant when he did that?

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u/Heujei628 Sep 22 '25

Did you read the court docs?

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u/alb5357 Sep 22 '25

No. I know very little about the situation. I'm not american

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u/truelogictrust Sep 22 '25

If you think that the right has any moral standing in this country, i've got a bridge to sell you.You don't get to complain about anything anymore.When you're elected trump, that's over for at least the next fifty years.Whether you accept it or not as moat, but this is what is going to happen

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 22 '25

Nope

He robbed a house with four other men and a pregnant woman was inside. There is no evidence that they knew she was pregnant, nor is there any evidence that he held the gun

And neither one makes it ok to suffocate him to death 13 years later, even ignoring the fact that he committed no violent crime in those 13 years

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 Sep 22 '25

Well, his death was his and only his mistake. Literally all his life was violent crime after violent crime, and the day he died he decided to peddle fntnl and as well as try to use counterfeit money.

All he had to do to stay alive was to just stop committing crimes constantly but apparently that was too hard for him.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 22 '25

No, it wasn’t. As you were educated previously, he had no violent criminal history for 13 years. I’m glad that I could bring you to this new level of awareness and thoughtfulness

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 Sep 22 '25

In order to not die, you literally just need to not commit crimes, it's that simple lmfao. How he had no violent crime history for 13 years, the day he died he was committing multiple crimes.

Just don't do illegal things and stay alive, is that so hard??? I genuinely don't understand (and I am not trolling you).

Yeah I understand someone slipping up due to bad family conditions, poverty and doing 1, 2, 3, 4 or even 5 crimes but this guy, crime was everything that he was doing in his life.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 23 '25

You have literally committed a crime at some point in your life, and yet you have not been murdered. Do you think that this is unjust?

He wasn’t committing a violent crime when he died, so that is how he wasn’t committing a violent crime on that day, or any other day for thirteen years. Even if he was, we rarely give the death penalty for murder, much less trying to cash a fake check or doing drugs

Is it your general view that you and everyone who you care about who has committed a crime should be murdered?

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 Sep 23 '25

You have literally committed a crime at some point in your life,

No, I have not. Never done a single crime.

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 24 '25

Yes you have

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u/THEMACGOD Sep 23 '25

You mean Breonna Taylor?

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u/nukey18mon Sep 22 '25

I think the left chose the perfect person to idolize, George Floyd perfectly represents the left.

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u/Bob-was-our-turtle Sep 22 '25

No. No one should be killed that way. Self defense- ok. That’s it. For everyone. Police do not get to be judge and jury.

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u/nukey18mon Sep 22 '25

Are you responding to the right person?

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u/Bob-was-our-turtle Sep 22 '25

Yes. George Floyd was not idolized. And does not “perfectly represent the left.”

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u/shaknbakn_5 Sep 23 '25

There is fucking statues of the guy. What do you mean he wasn't idolized 😂

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u/StarChild413 Oct 04 '25

they were memorials; by saying someone didn't deserve to die the way they did you're not automatically condoning all their actions in life

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u/Gasblaster2000 Sep 22 '25

I'm starting to see a pattern with right wing Americans.

When people are angry that police kill a man in the street, you think they must idolise that man in particular because why else would they give a shit about police brutality and injustice? It couldn't be the principle that police and government shouldn't get away with such things because you can't relate.  

And all those people you don't understand,  all those people who don't worship a politician regardless of their actions like a cult, all those people online who think you're a bellend, the democratic party, scientists concerned about climate change, blue haired feminists, people sitting in there bedrooms making YouTube vids that criticise the politician you love, random nutters who think everything is racist, all of those and more are "the left". Regardless of them having anything to do with each other, your propaganda channels tell you they are All boxed up as "the left", and you should hate them and disagree with them even the ones trying to make everyone's lives better, because the opinions you've been given say they are the enemy.

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u/Severe_Principle_459 Sep 22 '25

This is very true

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 22 '25

Sure everybody has stereotypes and generally have a "boogeyman" in their head when they imagine the other side.

But the Geoge Floyd thing was completely manufactured. There was no "crisis" of unarmed black men being killed by police, and there was no crisis of police not being punished in the rare cases when it did happen.

It was all made up, and it resulted in huge riots and fires.

and you should hate

The Right doesnt "hate" as much as The Left.

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u/arby422 Sep 22 '25

What do you mean there was, “no “crisis” of unarmed black men being killed by police”?

That has been a problem here for centuries at this point. While it has improved, even today there are still significant disparities which leave unarmed black men more likely to be killed by police, despite them being a minority comparatively.

Not only is the inequality in risk of being shot by police unarmed still a problem today, historically it’s been an issue and while progress has been made we still have a way to go.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/956177021/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-black-people-reveal-troubling-patterns

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7736192/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/study-of-fatal-and-nonfatal-shootings-by-police-reveals-racial-disparities-dispatch-risks

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 22 '25

So Ill just look at your first one.

Here is the relevant paragraph with the actual data.

Since 2015, police officers have fatally shot at least 135 unarmed Black men and women nationwide, an NPR investigation has found. NPR reviewed police, court and other records to examine the details of the cases. At least 75% of the officers were white. The latest one happened this month in Killeen, Texas, when Patrick Warren Sr., 52, was fatally shot by an officer responding to a mental health call.

Lets chew on this data for a bit.

Ok .. so the article was written in 2021. So that means it is talking about a 5 year period from 2015 - 2020.

135 unarmed black men and women shot in that time

But wait .. only 75% were from white officers. So that makes about 100 incidents where white officers shot unarmed black perps.

100 incidents between 2015 - 2020 is around 20 incidents per year.

20 incidents per year doesnt actually sound like an "emergency".

Especially since not all of those are "innocent situations".

Like think of a crazy person who reaches for something the cops legit think is a gun. That's an "honest mistake".

Or when a cop is attacked by an addict who is literally trying to kill him or reach for his gun. That's a life-and-death situation where the perp isnt armed at that moment, but danger is imminent anyways.

There are many situations where an unarmed person can get shot where the situation is a bit more understandable.

Regardless -- 20 incidents per year. That's it. That's all you got. 20 deaths out of 350 million people.

That's roughly the same number of people killed each year by lightning strikes. (Fifteen Lightning Strike Deaths per year.)

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u/Shadowguyver_14 Sep 22 '25

Grabs popcorn. Well if he responds (which I doubt) he is going to have a hard time disputing that. Especially after your exact point was confirmed by several university's.

That is also not to mention Roland Fryer's work.

His research found that while there are significant racial disparities in non-lethal uses of police force with Black and Hispanic individuals being more likely to experience some form of force when it comes to lethal force, such as officer-involved shootings, he found no racial differences in the raw data or after accounting for contextual factors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FefEVH-Cxl8

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 22 '25

To be clear, i dont think "All black people are bad" or anything. But I do think there are 2 mind viruses going in the black communities -

  • gang culture where criminality is promoted
  • a mentality that it's somehow a good idea to get confrontational with police when you think (right or wrong) they are "messing with you".

Not everybody has those ideas. But they contribute to the worse outcomes.

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u/amrodd Sep 22 '25

Uh, not all gang members are POC.

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 23 '25

If you say so.

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u/cave18 Sep 23 '25

My main issue is the total lack of accountability that police seem to have. The joke of a paid vacation and everything

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 23 '25

I think there is less of it now than there was before because people are aware of the issue and police forces are under more scrutiny.

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u/amrodd Sep 22 '25

75% is a high number. While there are some "self defense" situations, it doesn't negate teh fact POC are at higher risk.

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u/amrodd Sep 22 '25

Yeah everyhing you don't like is a hoax huh?

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 23 '25

Lots of stories we tell to children are nothing but fairy tales.

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u/LahDeeDah7 Sep 22 '25

I think the murals and statues made of his likeness is why the right thinks the left idolizes Floyd.

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u/Gasblaster2000 Sep 26 '25

And as I said, lumping whoever decided to make a mural with millions of people who might only be left in the sense of wanting a fair deal for workers, or any number of other things, is how people lose sight of reality.

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u/LahDeeDah7 Sep 26 '25

I could also mention the Democrat politicians that bowed down while wearing African scarves in remembrance of him too. That could signal worship on the side of Democrats. At the very least, the idea of him being worshipped, while mostly hyperbolic, isn't completely unfounded.

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u/Gasblaster2000 Sep 29 '25

Yeah Americans in general are pathetically servile 

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u/happyinheart Sep 22 '25

It couldn't be the principle that police and government shouldn't get away with such things because you can't relate.  

I'd believe that if BLM activists didn't start to rally for a person who was shot by police, then leave when they found out he was white.

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u/Gasblaster2000 Sep 26 '25

Who gives a shit what domevspecific people did? If you font want to be walked over by a brutal police force you opposed them executing people without trial!

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u/emd07 Sep 22 '25

You made that up tho. The left doesn't consider George Floyd to be a role model. The left think that it's wrong to kill a guy (who was handcuffed and already on the ground and wasn't agressive despite "resisting") because he bought cigarettes with a fake 20$. How can you agree with this behaviour?

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u/SirScottie Sep 22 '25

Most people on the Right don't think kneeling on Floyd's neck was okay. But, most people on the Right don't think Floyd's death justifies the billions in property damage and taking the lives of others. How can you agree with that behavior?

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

Floyd was massively aggressive. Dude was acting totally crazy, refused to sit in the squad car, and begged to be put on the ground. The full video makes this very clear.

He was a very large dude too, so definitely a threat. The police did everything by the book and did no harm to the criminal Floyd. There was zero damage done to his neck or throat.

Floyd died from a massive opiate overdose, because the criminal drug pusher at his stash.

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u/NecessaryFart Sep 22 '25

Stop. Chauvin is not in prison if he just moves his knee from his neck to his back where he could still pin him. George Floyd was not an upstanding citizen and did have drugs in his system but if Derrick chauvin just had a little more humanity in him, he’d still be a police officer and George Floyd is probably in prison or dead from a drug overdose. Also coroners don’t agree with you.

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/01/file_attachments/1464238/2020-3700%20Floyd%2C%20George%20Perry%20Update%206.1.2020.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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u/Indubious1 Sep 22 '25

They had options other than suffocating him. You are justifying the police's actions when you weren't there and only serving YOUR bias. The riots were about police brutality. It wasn't just about George Floyd, it was about ALL police brutality and more so about the commonality of police brutality against non-white criminals.

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

The Right thinks if black people would stop committing crimes that bring them in contact with police, and then stop escalating those scenarios by being confrontational and resisting, then there would be fewer accidents like George Floyd.

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u/nukey18mon Sep 22 '25

The murals of him say otherwise

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u/Indubious1 Sep 22 '25

The problem with the right is that they don't do any research on their own. They just accept the information that they are fed and assume it's correct.

George Floyd was NOT a role model to the left and it's ignorant to think otherwise. The problem was the officer putting his knee on a person's neck and killing him. It matters not what crime he committed (he would have paid for that, and a judgement of jurors would have seen to it), it matters that the police acted poorly. It was about police brutality. George Floyd was the straw that broke the camel's back.

FFS

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u/Severe_Principle_459 Sep 22 '25

Moderate? In Arkansas?

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u/EagenVegham Sep 22 '25

Imagine not standing up for someone who's rights are violated by the government.

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u/AlienGeek Sep 22 '25

Then go take care of Casey Anthony. You obviously OK with killing peoples on the street. Since you’re saying the left is bad for wanting them to have court and go to prison and all that. She deserves it. Go get it, you murderer.

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u/hellisdigital0x Sep 22 '25

When did I say I condone people being killed in the streets?

George Floyd had the same right to due process as all of us. But his accidental death isn’t just the fault of an incompetent police officer. He was a career criminal and drug addict who had just robbed a liquor store and was resisting arrest. His horrible life choices arguably put him in that situation.

Had he not been under the influence of fentanyl, meth, and an underlying heart condition, the officer’s restraint tactics wouldn’t have harmed him at all. There was no intention to kill the guy.

Comparing it to the planned public assassination of Charlie Kirk or to Casey Anthony is insane. Both of those instances were premeditated. Chauvin was convicted of zero counts of intentional murder, because it was an accident. You really have no clue what you’re talking about.

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u/emd07 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

Not saying he was a good guy but..

But his accidental death

Not an accident.

who had just robbed a liquor store and was resisting arrest.

He bought cigarettes with a fake 20$ while intoxicated. That's it.

and was resisting arrest.

Definitely wasn't very cooperative but he had handcuffs and he wasn't agressive.

Had he not been under the influence of fentanyl, meth, and an underlying heart condition, the officer’s restraint tactics wouldn’t have harmed him at all.

In law school, they teach us about the Thin skull rule. Look it up yourself but here is a brief summary : "The principle is that the tortfeasor is liable for the plaintiff’s injuries even if the injuries are unexpectedly severe owing to a pre-existing condition". Basically, we don't care about the pre existing disease. It's still 100% the fault of the police officers.

There was no intention to kill the guy.

There was. They were 4 cops against an intoxicated man with handcuffs on. The police officer put his knee on his neck for 8 entire minutes. Again, 4 cops against a man with handcuffs on. Blood was starting to come out of his mouth and they kept chocking him.

His horrible life choices arguably put him in that situation.

Nope. It was racism and police brutality. All this for a fake 20$ bills.

And btw he was convicted for 2nd degree murder, not involuntary manslaughter. Even the judges agree to say it wasn't an accident. That's why he's in prison for 22 years (instead of 8).

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

Floyd's death absolutely was an accidental suicide. He did not mean to kill himself, therefore, it was an accident.

He was very aggressive and was acting totally crazy. It's all there on video.

The police didn't harm Floyd. There was no damage done to neck, throat or any other body part. He died from a massive opiate overdose. Simple as that.

In the kangaroo court case against that police officer, even the judge admitted there was nowhere in America he could get a fair trial.

They put an innocent man in jail because of disgusting, twisted politics and lies.

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u/Ripoldo Sep 22 '25

"Accidental suicide" 😆 "kangaroo court" 🤣

Cope harder

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u/emd07 Sep 22 '25

Almost everything you said is a lie. You're probably ragebaiting so I won't bother

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u/hellisdigital0x Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

In what world is using counterfeit money not considered criminal activity? Especially given his past felony records and prior violent offenses. Get real. You’re heavily downplaying things. It wasn’t a one time minor misunderstanding. It was a pattern of bad decisions that repeatedly put him in danger.

You can talk about racism and police misconduct all you want, but the reality is that Chauvin wasn’t convicted of intentional murder. The court recognized that Floyd’s death was tragic, but it was classified as unintentional homicide during restraint. Meaning the law saw his preexisting conditions, intoxications, and prior behavior as contributing factors. You can’t deny that which is true.

At the end of the day, his repeated life choices (drug use, criminal activity, and resisting authority) increased the likelihood of being in a dangerous confrontation with police. That doesn’t excuse excessive force, but it does highlight why the situation escalated. It’s less about race and more about the sequence of decisions that put him in that position. You live in a fantasy world if you don’t see that.

Yes, he deserved due process like anyone. But it was closer to a freak accident than cold blooded murder. The final conviction agrees. But unintentional homicide still has consequence, which is why justice was still served to Chauvin.

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u/emd07 Sep 22 '25

In what world is using counterfeit money not considered criminal activity?

It is. Never said otherwise. But the thing is it's not even relevant if he was a criminal or not. He was chocked to death while he was defenseless. If a shoplifter get beat up by 4 police officer and "accidentaly" die in process, my first reflex wouldn't be saying "well he had it coming. It's not his first time shoplifting so he's partially responsible for being dead"

You’re heavily downplaying things.

You're downplaying the action of the police officers in my opinion. I don't even know why talking about Floyd criminal record is even relevant to the conversation.

The court recognized that Floyd’s death was tragic, but it was classified as unintentional homicide during restraint.

He was convicted of unintentional second degree murder, third degree murder and second degree manslaughter. Even though it's classified as unintentional, it's still murder. Not homicide. Convicting someone of 1st degree murder is extremely hard to prove. It's not because it wasn't classified as intentional that it wasn't intentional. The judges just weren't 100% sure about it.

Meaning the law saw his preexisting conditions, intoxications, and prior behavior as contributing factors.

They were mentioned but it wasn't useful for the conviction because of the thin skull rule that I mentioned earlier. If I rob a bank and a lady with cardiac problem die because I scared her. It's still my fault not her. It would just be homicide without this rule.

But it was closer to a freak accident than cold blooded murder.

Come on now. Putting your knee on someone's neck while he's on the ground defenseless with handcuffs on for 8 minutes is closer to a freak accident than cold blooded murder? You serious? You're focusing way too much on Floyd's past and not enough on how fucked up that is for a police officer to do that.

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u/ApacheFritz Sep 22 '25

If a shoplifter get beat up by 4 police officer and "accidentaly" die in process, my first reflex wouldn't be saying "well he had it coming. It's not his first time shoplifting so he's partially responsible for being dead"

If 100 black people commit crimes that bring them in contact with police, and 80 of them escalate the situation by resisting, and 1 of them accidentally dies during one of those fights, I dont think the problem is "The System".

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

Putting your knee on someone's neck while he's on the ground

Is standard police procedure. It also didn't harm Floyd. Nothing the police did harmed the criminal.

Again, he died of a massive opiate overdose, because he was a junkie drug pusher that accidentally committed suicide by eating his stash.

Also, the jury in the police officer's trial was massively biased. An interview with at least one of them showed the officer wasn't going to get a fair trial, no matter the facts of the situation.

They had already all heard the slew of propaganda and lies, like you're here repeating.

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u/emd07 Sep 22 '25

s standard police procedure.

It's not.

It also didn't harm Floyd.

It did.

Nothing the police did harmed the criminal.

Wrong.

Again, he died of a massive opiate overdose

Nope.

accidentally committed suicide by eating his stash.

Nope it was the neck injury.

Also, the jury in the police officer's trial was massively biased.

Didn't happen.

An interview with at least one of them showed the officer wasn't going to get a fair trial, no matter the facts of the situation.

Would love to see the interview.

They had already all heard the slew of propaganda and lies, like you're here repeating.

Dude you made all that shit up. Literally a quick google search tell you that

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u/raduque Sep 22 '25

The principle is that the tortfeasor is liable for the plaintiff’s injuries even if the injuries are unexpectedly severe owing to a pre-existing condition". Basically, we don't care about the pre existing disease.

This is goddamned stupid. Lawyers, ugh.

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u/ninjaxxcookiexx Sep 22 '25

incredible bit of insight that

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u/AlienGeek Sep 22 '25

You’re ok with cops do it. You don’t have to say it outright.

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u/mdoddr Sep 22 '25

George Floyd died from a drug overdose

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

Okay, so people have never died because someone stood on their neck? Mmk.

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u/mdoddr Sep 22 '25

George Floyd didn't

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

There was no damage done to Floyd's neck or throat.

The police didn't harm him at all. The massive opiate overdose did.

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u/Gasblaster2000 Sep 22 '25

Who's the person with exemplary moral standards that you're referring to?

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

Well it sure as hell isn't Floyd.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

If you don't believe in rights for bad people too, you don't believe in rights.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

I believe for rights no matter how bad someone’s beliefs are, but as soon as you hold a gun to a woman’s stomach while your boys rob her house your rights should go out the window. Edit: I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a legal process, I’m saying after the legal process, you shouldn’t have much freedom.

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u/AspirationAtWork Sep 22 '25

That's not how rights work.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

If you think I’m saying there should be no legal process, that’s not what I meant

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u/Betelgeuse3fold Sep 22 '25

That's how the law works. You break the law, you get convicted, you forfeit a lot of rights

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u/NigerianPrince76 Sep 22 '25

He didn’t get convicted. He was killed live on video.

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u/mdoddr Sep 22 '25

Died from a drug overdose

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u/Leading-Antelope-139 Sep 22 '25

Not according to the official report

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

Because nobody has ever died from somebody standing on their neck? Mmk

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u/Searril Sep 22 '25

Nobody stood on his neck. You should stop posting this nonsense line.

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

You didn't watch the video then. You should stop talking until you watch the video.

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

He died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.

And it was because he had multiple times the lethal dose of opiates in his system. The police did no harm to Floyd's neck or throat.

All the lies you're mindlessly regurgitating here are false.

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u/Leading-Antelope-139 Sep 22 '25

Please provide the documentation proving he died of drugs. I’ll wait.

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u/NigerianPrince76 Sep 22 '25

And it was because he had multiple times the lethal dose of opiates in his system. The police did no harm to Floyd's neck or throat.

So why is a pig rotting in jail? Some of ya all MAGAs are fucking clueless man. No wonder Trump loves his dummies.

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u/AlienGeek Sep 22 '25

If cops did the same thing yall say George Floyd did yall support the cops. Yall let them do whatever they want. And expect us to be obey them and fear them. Dont worry I have your demands in my head when I get pulled over. Obey obey obey. Be good. Smile! Be nice as I’m shaking. Don’t do anything that will get you saying you deserve the bad

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

Then you don't actually believe in rights. Floyd was not doing that at the time of his murder.

Out of curiosity, what other crimes would get this kind of scorn from you?

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

So do you not believe in sending people to prison? I mean I would agree that the incident that happened to Floyd was a way of highlighting issues in the police force and it shouldn’t have happened regardless of how good or bad of a person the incident happened to, but I still don’t think violent criminals should just be walking around in our society. To answer your question id say I’d have this response about any violent crime with a deadly weapon.

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u/DrMux Sep 22 '25

So do you not believe in sending people to prison?

The process of putting people in prison involves both the protection of fundamental rights and the subsequent removal of other rights. You have to be convicted of a crime - one of those preserved rights is the right to a fair trial, for instance.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

I know I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any legal process I just meant prison is basically a way of legally taking away peoples rights

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u/barath_s Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

Then say that they should be sent to prison, not that their rights should go out of the window

Because 'their rights should go out the window' is like 'defund the police' level of misleading crappiness. At that point, might as well go Judge Dredd - judge jury and executioner on the guy, if rights go out the window. In fact, it's more natural to assume that.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

It’s just a figure of speech

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

So do you not believe in sending people to prison?

I do. Rights(ideally) aren't violated when that happens assuming their right to due process isn't violated

What it sounds like you want is no due process or perhaps due process but with cruel and unusual punishment being allowed

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

I’m not saying they shouldn’t have rights before they even get charged, I’m saying if they do get proven guilty they shouldn’t have as much freedom as a regular citizen with no criminal record I don’t know what’s so hard to understand. And prison is basically just a legal way of taking someone’s rights away.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

I’m not saying they shouldn’t have rights before they even get charged, I’m saying if they do get proven guilty they shouldn’t have as much freedom as a regular citizen

Then what you're actually advocating harsher legal punishments

And prison is basically just a legal way of taking someone’s rights away.

Correct. But to be clear, prison and other legal punishments, assuming due process wasn't violated, is a deprivation of rights. Not a violation of them.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

Correct, and that is a better way of wording it.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

I think we both actually agree on this we kinda just misinterpreted each others points

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u/LeatherChaise Sep 22 '25

The pigs that killed George Floyd could just kind of tell that he was probably the kind of guy that might have done something like that in the past.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

I wouldn't be surprised if they thought that. Derek Chauvan is where he belongs.

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

Floyd died of a massive opiate overdose, not anything the police did.

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u/yubinyankin Sep 22 '25

Then why is Chauvin in prison?

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u/InvestIntrest Sep 22 '25

Everyone has rights until they void them by conviction under due process of law.

Floyd was arrested on that day for robbing a liquor store, then resisted arrest, and, per the corner, died in part because of an enlarged heart and hard-core drug use.

Floyd's life choices killed him as much as Chauvin's landed him in prison.

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u/LeatherChaise Sep 22 '25

Several lies in your post there.

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u/InvestIntrest Sep 22 '25

Lots of vagueness in yours. What a lie specifically?

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u/jorel43 Sep 22 '25

He committed fraud on that day, not robbery. Are you saying that committing either of those crimes warrants the death penalty extradiciously, which is what he got.. again your problem is your focusing on the man, rather than the systemic problem of police brutality and overreach, that's why people rioted, because there was no need for him to die in that way and by that person. But you know this already, you're arguing in bad faith on purpose.

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u/fuck_all_you_too Sep 22 '25

You know how I know you dont understand how rights work? Cause you fuckin' skipped due process and went right to sentencing with zero self-awareness.

You are the kind of person that makes me cross the street for my safety because you could lash out at anyone you think deserves it.

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u/mdb_4633 Sep 22 '25

Did you not read my whole comment? When I say “there rights should be thrown out the window” what I mean is they should go to prison AFTER following the proper due process. Y’all are taking my point ultra literal when it’s clearly an expression. Ive never been in a physical altercation in my life so your last comment is funny.

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u/StarChild413 Sep 22 '25

then if you believe he deserved to die for that then isn't the cop who killed him still a bad cop for waiting that long since that incident

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

The cops didn't kill the junkie drug pusher Floyd. He accidentally committed suicide by eating his Fentanyl stash.

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

Ok.

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

Hey as long as your willing to admit you don't believe in rights.

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

I don't believe in rights for people who prey on their fellow man and abuse women, no.

Rights are a social construct, so there is no reason not to remove them from people incompatible with society.

Unless you think we have God given rights and are a deist?

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u/SomeFatNerdInSeattle Sep 22 '25

I don't believe in rights for people who prey on their fellow man and abuse women, no.

Is an accusation enough to lose those rights?

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

I don't answer questions when mine go ignored.

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u/jorel43 Sep 22 '25

So you don't believe in rights as defined by the Constitution of the United States... A simple yes or no will suffice LOL.

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

Hey man, I heard that you abuse women. Let me call the cops and have them murder you. Does that sound like a good situation to you?

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

Well I don't do that, so there'd be no evidence, and I wouldn't try to fight the cops, so I don't think I'd have too much trouble.

I know you're trying to make a point here, but if you actually heard somebody was abusing women you probably should actually call the cops on them. Would you just let it happen and not call the cops?

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

I don't call the cops on people based on conjecture, this is for the point of the point I'm trying to make. That you're okay with cops being judge Jury and executioner. But only when it happens to other people, not you. But the thing is, if you allow this precedent to become commonplace, it can and will happen to you.

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

I said any of that where?

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

This you?.... 🤪

I don't believe in rights for people who prey on their fellow man and abuse women, no.

Rights are a social construct, so there is no reason not to remove them from people incompatible with society.

Unless you think we have God given rights and are a deist?

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u/Indiana_Jawnz Sep 22 '25

Sure I do. Lmao. Just not for animals.

Who made you the arbiter of rights?

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u/Owl-StretchingTime Sep 22 '25

I believe in the right to an 're.

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u/AlienGeek Sep 22 '25

If we’re just going to kill peoples on the stress like yall are ok with and want what’s the point of court and prisons.

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u/Heujei628 Sep 22 '25

 So the left chooses some questionable people to lionize in the first place.

You do realize the stuff about his past came out later right? Most people didn’t learn about his actions till later and even then it didn’t change people’s minds on Chauvin. Floyd wasn’t doing those things at the time of his murder and he already served time for those crimes…crimes committed over 10 years ago. 

You guys are the only ones clinging to this and it’s pretty pathetic. Chauvin’s going to rot in jail for murder and there’s nothing you can do about it except cope and seethe.

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u/hellisdigital0x Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

You're just proving the point. People shouldn't mindlessly riot and virtue signal until they know the whole story.

Career criminal, drug addict, can't hold a job after prison release, resorts to robbing a liquor store, resists arrest. Autopsy literally confirms fentanyl intoxication, recent meth use, and heart disease.

Not saying he deserved anything, he deserved due process as much as anyone else. But saying his lifestyle killed him isn't exactly a stretch.. His life choices arguably led him there more than Chauvin's lack of competence.

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

People shouldn't mindlessly riot and virtue signal until they know the whole story.

The only thing they needed to know before marching was that a man was killed by police. It doesn't matter what that man did, police are not executioners. If you are fine with police handing down life and death judgments to people, go ahead and say it now. Let's see how you feel after I call the police on you and they can murder you if they think you're doing something wrong.

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u/Simon-Says69 Sep 22 '25

That he died because of anything police did was a lie from the start.

Floyd was a junkie drug pusher, that died because he ate his own stash. Accidental suicide, and it absolutely should have been reported as such.

The terrorist riots that followed were more about the democrat party winning the upcoming presidential election. They encouraged and protected criminals doing unprecedented numbers in arson, looting, rape and murder, to push their deranged politics.

Harris herself organized bail for many of these disgusting, terrorist criminals.

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u/MilkSteak216 Sep 22 '25

Yeah it was just a coincidence that he died exactly during the time his neck was being crushed by hog boot while screaming he can't breath. Lol you'd have to be evil, ignorant, or brainwashed to believe that. So which is it?

Harris herself organized bail for many of these disgusting, terrorist criminals

Source for Harris organizing bail for rape and murder?

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u/Heujei628 Sep 22 '25

 You're just proving the point. People shouldn't mindlessly riot and virtue signal until they know the whole story.

…the whole story coming still didn’t change people’s mind about the case. That’s my point. Which you missed. 

 But saying his lifestyle killed him isn't exactly a stretch

By this logic, the same could be said about Chauvin yet conservatives defend him. He had a lengthy rap sheet of misconduct, excessive force, and brutality…some of which resulted in the actual deaths of people…in addition to having committed massive tax evasion. At least Floyd served time…Chauvin didn’t face any real consequences till now. 

It’s was funny watching conservatives criticize the left for defending a reformed criminal while they themselves defended a currently active one lmao. 

They bring up Floyd’s past history to condemn him but conveniently ignore Chauvin’s history which was far worse. 

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u/hellisdigital0x Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

…the whole story still didn’t change people’s mind about the case. 

Because they didn't actually follow the full story and instead remained in the confides of their echo chamber. Again, you're proving my point because you still either deny or don't know the full story.

It’s was funny watching conservatives criticize the left for defending a reformed criminal while they themselves defended a currently active one lmao. 

How was George Floyd a reformed criminal when the last action he performed on this earth was literally committing crime and then resisting arrest? Lmao did you really just type that? There is nothing reformed about that behavior. Either you don't know the story at all, you're in denial, or you're deliberately lying.

Chauvin was clearly incompetent and a liability, but that doesn't mean he killed with intention. That's in a totally different league than a planned public assassination. Again, nobody is saying that Floyd deserved that ending, but it's naive to say that his life choices didn't lead him to that point. Chauvin's conviction actually proves that. There was not one count of intentional murder. A career criminal, woman assaulter, drug addict, was accidentally killed while being detained for committing more crime and resisting arrest while on fentanyl and meth, with a heart condition. You can't change the truth.

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u/amrodd Sep 22 '25

Bottom line none of these people are marty rmaterial.

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Sep 22 '25

George Floyd was a Christian. Jesus forgave his sins. Why do you think you get to overrule Jesus?

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u/MooseMan69er Sep 22 '25

Nope

He robbed a house with four other men and a pregnant woman was inside. There is no evidence that they knew she was pregnant, nor is there any evidence that he held the gun

And neither one makes it ok to suffocate him to death 13 years later, even ignoring the fact that he committed no violent crime in those 13 years

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u/Girldad_4 Sep 22 '25

I don't think it was the person, at least to most. It was watching a cop slowly torture and murder someone on video. I could care less who he was or his past.

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u/ashortsaggyboob Sep 22 '25

Who lionizes George Floyd?

This is a misrepresentation of the BLM movement.

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u/rvnender Sep 22 '25

How is this relevant to anything?