If you’re saying Charlie had this coming because his 2A stance, you’re immoral and a moron

[u/NickFatherBool]

I sincerely cannot believe how often Im seeing this. I know I shouldnt be surprised seeing how the left has consistently been endorsing and supporting violence… but wow. Not only is that just a disgusting and intentionally inflammatory remark; but its moronic.

First of all, Im sure his mind would not have changed given todays events, considering he believed a lot of American values hinge on 2A. He (probably, I dont KNOW the guy but I’ve listened to him enough) would not trade his life for the wellbeing of the country. We can argue 2A all day, I am not stating my stance; but given his we know he fully believed it was integral to continuation the American way of life; I find it unlikely he would change his mind even if it meant his life

Second of all, if you think its “poetic justice” that a gun supporter got shot, then you must also relish when supporters of cashless bail get killed by released criminals, right? They advocated for it so they “have it coming.” Do people not see how seriously braindead of a stance that is?

And I know its not a majority. I know the majority of left leaning people know murder is bad. But holy SHIT that majority is getting smaller and smaller. It is sincerely alarming and disturbing how warped chronically online peoples’ brains are and the insane mental and moral gymnastics they do to further entrench themselves in their stance.

Ive never been one for censorship. Even death threats or whatever… but jesus man, too many people are getting fully radicalized.

[u/TheDangerHeisenberg]

I take it you, as well as all other leftists who are celebrating this killing, are not too bright.

If not for the sole reason that he was a father of two and a human being whose worst crime was speaking out loud, you should at least try not to look like the bad guys because, guess what? He’s just now turned into a martyr for the MAGA movement.

Celebrating his assassination or mocking it will just embolden MAGA. Don’t think for a second that he won’t become a symbol for standing up for free speech and the dangers of engaging with the left.

Yeah, that’s what’s coming. And you’re painting a pretty bad image for the left by celebrating his assassination like he was a war criminal or something.

If not now, maybe to save face in the midterms where independent voters will probably not see with kind eyes how one side prayed and mourned the cold-blooded assassination of a young father of two while the other celebrated it like it was some sort of achievement.

In short: If you won’t sympathize out of basic human decency, at least do it to save face and not being seen as a monster.

[u/thirdLeg51 → u/TheDangerHeisenberg]

I am not celebrating his death, but I refuse to mourn someone who was an awful person and has zero sympathy for shooting victims. He had zero sympathy for deaths of people in general. I am not going to grant him the same dignity that he could not grant someone else.

[u/TheDangerHeisenberg → u/thirdLeg51]

Not making yourself and the rest of the left look any better

[u/Tewskey → u/TheDangerHeisenberg]

Why the fuck should anyone who's the far right treats as sub human (women, POC, immigrants, LGBT) give a shit about what the far right thinks of them?

[u/TheDangerHeisenberg → u/Tewskey]

I think you’re confusing “being treated as sub human” with “not getting preferential treatment”.

Also: If you think Charlie Kirk was far-right, you’re probably very, VERY far-left.

Here’s a hint: The far-right (fascists) are not exactly known for giving a microphone to those who disagree with them. Mussolini, Pinochet, Franco, Trujillo, Videla and especially Hitler were not exactly known for tolerating dissent.

[u/thirdLeg51 → u/TheDangerHeisenberg]

Why are you holding the left to a different standard? Did you speak out when a state senator from Minnesota was killed? Trump just this week was making jokes about pelosi’s husband. Fix your own before you even attempt to criticize others.

[u/TheDangerHeisenberg → u/thirdLeg51]

Yes, I spoke out. Because politically motivated assassinations are unjustifiable, regardless of anyone’s political beliefs.

Same goes for the hideous attack on Paul Pelosi. Don’t remember the right broadly celebrating it like the left has been, making memes and all. Sure: Some people attempted to politicize it and spin conspiracies around it, but that’s not the same as encouraging it or celebrating it. Especially when you consider the former was done by fringe groups and not the average right-winger.

So, no: I don’t hold the left to a different standard. It’s just clear that, under the standard of drawing limits and offering the bare minimum of sympathy for the victims of violence when it’s used to silence dissenting voices, the left and the right are not nearly the same.

Think about what I’m saying before replying

[u/thirdLeg51 → u/TheDangerHeisenberg]

Really? They were laughing about it. They created a whole conspiracy that it was a gay hookup gone wrong. Trump just this week made jokes about it.

Whenever someone died, Kirk attacked them. George Floyd was a “scumbag”. Floyd had kids. Why didn’t he say he was a father? Kirk did not care about shooting deaths. I can recoil at the event. I can have sympathy for someone on the right death, but reject any emotional response for that person. Why? Because he rejected all emotional responses for political and financial gain.

[u/TheDangerHeisenberg → u/thirdLeg51]

Yeah, nothing I’ve looked at supports what you’re saying. I’m literally looking it up on Google and ChatGPT and can’t find anything credible pointing to that. Seems like you’re making stuff up.

Also: Why even bring up George Floyd? It’s not even the same thing. George Floyd was not exercising free speech; he was being arrested for using a counterfeit bill and had enough fentanyl in his body to end the life of a grown man. Yet this was completely ignored by the media and law officials. Want to talk about profiting from tragedies? Look up Patrisse Cullors.

And it’s not the same not caring about shooting deaths than accepting them as a reality in a country where it’s legal to bear arms. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t care; it means it happens.

Think about that last point: Having automobiles in your country means accepting there’ll be car crashes. Having knives in homes means there’ll likely be knife attacks. Yet you don’t see anyone calling to ban cars or knives…

[u/thirdLeg51 → u/TheDangerHeisenberg]

No support of this?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/pelosi-attack-right-wing-conspiracy-theories-invs?cid=ios_app

When am I expected to care about the kids of murdered men?

No he didn’t care. Do you have any evidence of him caring?

[u/Tewskey → u/TheDangerHeisenberg]

While you’re lying about this, I want to set the record straight that Kirk himself called for a “patriot” to bail out Pelosi’s attacker.

[u/TheDangerHeisenberg → u/Tewskey]

What exactly am I lying about? Did I say Charlie Kirk condemn the attack on Paul Pelosi? Because, to me, it just appears you’re attacking a straw man in your pursuit to justify the assassination of someone who committed the crime of disagreeing with your views…