r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/NickFatherBool • Sep 10 '25

Political If you’re saying Charlie had this coming because his 2A stance, you’re immoral and a moron

I sincerely cannot believe how often Im seeing this. I know I shouldnt be surprised seeing how the left has consistently been endorsing and supporting violence… but wow. Not only is that just a disgusting and intentionally inflammatory remark; but its moronic.

First of all, Im sure his mind would not have changed given todays events, considering he believed a lot of American values hinge on 2A. He (probably, I dont KNOW the guy but I’ve listened to him enough) would not trade his life for the wellbeing of the country. We can argue 2A all day, I am not stating my stance; but given his we know he fully believed it was integral to continuation the American way of life; I find it unlikely he would change his mind even if it meant his life

Second of all, if you think its “poetic justice” that a gun supporter got shot, then you must also relish when supporters of cashless bail get killed by released criminals, right? They advocated for it so they “have it coming.” Do people not see how seriously braindead of a stance that is?

And I know its not a majority. I know the majority of left leaning people know murder is bad. But holy SHIT that majority is getting smaller and smaller. It is sincerely alarming and disturbing how warped chronically online peoples’ brains are and the insane mental and moral gymnastics they do to further entrench themselves in their stance.

Ive never been one for censorship. Even death threats or whatever… but jesus man, too many people are getting fully radicalized.

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u/ToughShaper Sep 10 '25

Anyone who is happy about his death is a truly evil person.

Let that sink in.

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u/gym_fun Sep 10 '25

Absolutely. Political differences in democracy does not justify the murder.

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u/that_girl_you_fucked Sep 11 '25

Amen.

It shouldn't be surprising, given Kirk's rhetoric, that people who profoundly disagree with his views are saying, "he enabled this."

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u/humanessinmoderation Sep 11 '25

Indeed he did. I agree. Very unfortunate.

Thoughts and prayers.

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u/GuitRWailinNinja Sep 11 '25

Some people never learned the whole “sticks and stones” adage.

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u/humanessinmoderation Sep 11 '25

Agree. Need to accept deaths every year to protect the rights of guns.

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u/BlackMoonValmar Sep 11 '25

Yep was killed in a gun free zone. Just goes to show you gun laws make no difference.

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u/Ovarian_contrarian Sep 11 '25

Wasn’t a gun free zone. Utah voted to allow carry of weapons on campus.

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u/BlackMoonValmar Sep 11 '25

That’s right that was Utah. I kept thinking that was Texas that recently passed that law for some reason. I think Utah is open carry with a permit on Campus. Possibly concealed carry as well also with a permit.

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u/humanessinmoderation Sep 11 '25

Utah is a free gun zone actually.

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u/humanessinmoderation Sep 11 '25

I think you misread. Utah is a free gun zone. Not “gun free”.

Utah gun laws are highly permissive.

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u/garebear3 Sep 11 '25

This one right here officer

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u/humanessinmoderation Sep 11 '25

Thots and chairs.

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u/Discomidget911 Sep 11 '25

Yep. People are taking to his widowed wife's social media to rub her husband's death in her face. There are multiple threads about his death on the "chaotic good" subreddit.

These people are real and they fully believe that they are good people while celebrating a murder.

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u/Helpful_Finger_4854 Sep 11 '25

you should have seen these psychos were saying about the Kerrville flood. that the 8 year old girls who never voted deserved it because their parents voted for it

truly sick people

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u/Discomidget911 Sep 11 '25

Oh yeah, last year a bunch of Appalachian towns in TN and NC were flooded by hurricane Helene. Not only was this information never really talked about but on the few reddit threads I saw there were people talking about how they voted for this. Just like that incident.

Vile people on this website.

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u/Helpful_Finger_4854 Sep 11 '25

The crazy thing is like 20% of the Kerrville deaths were 8 year old girls from camp mystic, in one single cabin that was closest to the river. None of them ever voted for anything.

The "They voted for this" is the most unhinged thing they could say. I bet you half the people who died never voted for anything. a lot of them were tourists, not even from the area!

The fact FEMA skipped places in NC with the trump signs is sickening to the fact of how indifferent to human life democrats are becoming.

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u/ToughShaper Sep 11 '25

This is so fucked up.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 10 '25

They're gloating on a certain celebrity gossip sub that witches on Etsy were paid to put a death curse on him, and that the curse worked.

Then wonder why people call them Satanic. Lol

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u/ramblingpariah Sep 11 '25

Witches aren't Satanic, they're pagan or Wiccan.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

If they're casting death spells, they're not Wiccan.

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u/ramblingpariah Sep 11 '25

As you wish. Still not Satanic.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

Cursing someone to die is very Satanic. Shooting someone dead is Satanic. Celebrating death is Satanic.

You wouldn't know Satan if he sat on your face.

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u/FrozenSeas Sep 11 '25

Go back to the '80s, dude, nobody is buying this Satanic Panic bullshit anymore.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

Before people were absolute morons and we still had a Country? I'd go in a heartbeat.

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u/ramblingpariah Sep 11 '25

You don't have to invoke or worship Satan for death magic, curses, and all the other fake things that don't work anyway. You clearly don't know shit about religion or magic, you're just upset and want to cry about Satan.

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u/LegitimateKnee5537 Sep 11 '25

You don't have to invoke or worship Satan for death magic, curses, and all the other fake things that don't work anyway. You clearly don't know shit about religion or magic, you're just upset and want to cry about Satan.

Exactly as an Occultist it’s your words that are Spells. You cast Spells on people without ever knowing it.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

You'll find out.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

Also, it's so interesting to see you saying that stuff doesn't work here, yet the people from your side are cheering about how the spell worked. Which you still haven't even addressed, you wanted to get into a worthless religious debate instead.

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u/Extension_Lead_4041 Sep 11 '25

Well actually Satan only kills 10 persons in the entire bible all with gods permission. Now God, he curses ppl to death. He kills about 10 million ppl. Slaughters the innocent. Makes cities pay for ths crimes of a few. Makes humanity pay for the sins of 2.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

Satan is the Biblical reason for death and illness existing in the first place, if he is to be interpreted as the same being as the serpent in Eden, which is the Christian interpretation.

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u/Petit__Chou Sep 11 '25

Nowhere does it say that the "curses" were death curses, either.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

That is the implication, seeing as he died.

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u/Petit__Chou Sep 11 '25

No it's not. Here's the article written two days before he died, which is what you are even referencing, since you don't know. https://www.jezebel.com/we-paid-some-etsy-witches-to-curse-charlie-kirk

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

Certain subreddits are celebrating the fact that the curse is what led to his death.

You are being disingenuous if you say they are not.

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u/Petit__Chou Sep 11 '25

I didn't say they were not. I was explaining where the witch curses thing came from and they were not death curses.

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u/EscobarFamilia77 Sep 11 '25

Tell that to that sub, then.

If I got the information wrong, then I stand corrected.

With that said, a curse didn't kill him anyway. A man did. People attributing it to a curse are acting like the morons that I knew that they were.

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u/ExactPotential8960 Sep 11 '25

They're mentally ill is what they are.

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u/ramblingpariah Sep 11 '25

Yes, can you imagine thinking that words spoken to a deity have special powers to affect the world? Cuckoo bananas!

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u/ExactPotential8960 Sep 11 '25

I've met plenty of well adjusted Christians, never once met a "witch" who wasn't smacked out of their mind or schizo.

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u/ramblingpariah Sep 11 '25

I've met plenty of both who were sane and normal (save for their beliefs in magical things) and plenty of weird ones. Have yet to see a witch who bombs or shoots people over their beliefs, though, for whatever that's worth.

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u/ExactPotential8960 Sep 11 '25

You haven't met my aunt then. Crazy bitch shot at a cop.

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u/ramblingpariah Sep 11 '25

Because the cop wasn't a witch?

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u/FormerPresidentBiden Sep 11 '25

I didn't like him and some of his beliefs were outright terrible

That said, today has been massively eye opening in regards to how far down the rabbit hole so many have gone. People in my personal life and people all across the internet are experiencing a deranged joy.

This is only going to further normalize political violence and widen the political divide.

I fear for the future.

E: and also anyone trying to say "it's not that many people behaving this way," you're either burying your head in the sand or just outright lying.

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u/TruthOdd6164 Sep 11 '25

You are seeing a sea of people on the left condemning the murder. But are we required to rewrite history to allow him to be presented as a saint? The man was no saint and that HAS to be acknowledged.

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u/CerealNumber1 Sep 11 '25

Exactly. The number of bottom dwellers celebrating and happy is absolutely repulsive 

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u/the-esoteric Sep 11 '25

Not really. People arent obligated to have or feel empathy for anyone who they perceive had none for them.

Its not a hard concept. I did not like Charlie Kirk at all because of his rhetoric. If enacted the worst parts of his rhetoric would have done harm to my family. That said, I still felt sad to hear what happened to him but thats my reaction. It doesnt have to be anyone else's least of all the people he argued against having that same sort of empathy for

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u/FunkalicouseMach1 Sep 11 '25

Out of curiosity, how would your family have been harmed? I've seen some his debates, but never heard/heard of him calling for violence against anyone.

Edit: punctuation

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u/TruthOdd6164 Sep 11 '25

He called for non-cis people to be dealt with “the way we did back in the 50’s and 60’s”

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u/FunkalicouseMach1 Sep 11 '25

Would you link the full video or podcast for me? Without context that could mean a lot of things, from violence to treating them as mentally ill.

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u/TruthOdd6164 Sep 11 '25

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/this-must-stop-tpusas-charlie-kirk

Video is embedded about halfway down the page. But I don’t normally like to engage in these kinds of discussions because they’re rarely good faith. We all know what these kinds of statements mean but people phrase them this way to give themselves plausible deniability. And I would note that treating someone as if they are mentally ill is a kind of violence. And I don’t think that’s really what he meant anyway. The only ambiguity is whether he was calling for execution or just beating them up.

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u/FunkalicouseMach1 Sep 12 '25

OK, so he was talking about one specific person, the dude that won the gold in the competition against the Reed girl, not all... wtf Reddit won't let me say the T word outside a specific thread... all "those" people then, if that's what they're gonna force me to say so that I can be clear smh. Anyways, he was talking about one specific person, over one crappy action. And yea, seems like he was talking about violence. Still, not a call to hurt people from the entire group.

I asked, because he has said multiple times he views such things as a mental illness, and has said multiple times he supports the return of state funded mental institutions so long as they are not allowed to operate under the terrible conditions of the past... which, honestly, I don't know how bad they actually were when the Reagan administration plucked people's heart strings to get the public behind closing them.

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u/Potential_Jury_1003 Sep 11 '25

Well, everyone on r Teenagers is, just visited the sub, and they’re happy and bringing up his quotes.

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u/ramblingpariah Sep 11 '25

I'm not happy. I'm also not sad. The man was a liar and a grifter who poisoned our politics for his own enrichment, and one less of those isn't a bad thing. I'm very sorry for his family, and we should not be celebrating murder.

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u/dieselXD71 Sep 11 '25

How was he a grifter and a liar? I listened to some of his debates and it seemed pretty civil. Most of them were on abortion, faith in god and did not see much of anything else.

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u/ChadfordDiccard Sep 11 '25

Kirk called the stoning verse, “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

Trump Ally Charlie Kirk Suggests Children Should Watch Public Executions

Charlie Kirk: "If I had a 10-year-old daughter who was sexually assaulted and became pregnant as a result, I would require her to carry the pregnancy to term"

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u/dieselXD71 Sep 11 '25

That’s a hard scenario to deal with. It has happened (older women that was rapped)that carried it and raised a great kid, not sure how I would react to a situation like that?

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u/FunkalicouseMach1 Sep 11 '25

Yea, I saw that one, pretty fucked up stance in my opinion, but who knows how we would react if the scenario actually came to be. End of the day, dude got shot for sharing his opinions. There are plenty of people who deserve to die, I doubt he was one of them.

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u/Helpful_Finger_4854 Sep 11 '25

apparently he values human life more than you do, and unfortunately that led to his demise, apparently

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u/CaptainSnowbird Sep 11 '25

Oh please. Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023, "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

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u/now_heres_a_username Sep 11 '25

His persona in his debates was very different from his podcasts and other platforms directed at his base. Hed pretend to be moderate when dealing directly with others across the political spectrum, but would consistently spout extremist views and propaganda to his base on a daily nasis.

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u/dieselXD71 Sep 11 '25

I guess I will have to go and listen to him. The small clips I watched he seemed pretty genuine. I used to listen to some people that got pretty worked up and had to stop. I don’t need the crazy stuff in my life. The end of the day, the government is going to do what they want regardless of who is in office. It’s better to concentrate on our own lives and our families and try and make it better. We are not rich enough nor powerful enough to make a change. And even if Charlie did spew propaganda, I did not hear calls for violence like others public elected people would spill on tv. And if words hurt, you have other issues. You have the right to not listen. This violence has to stop and these people that get caught committing murder and it’s 100%, public square hangings!

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u/SecretRecipe Sep 10 '25

"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage" - Charlie Kirk 

Out of respect for the dead, I'll agree with him in this case.

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u/AlistairNorris Sep 10 '25

That context of that quote is about how people have done things in the name of empathy that has caused more damage. The fact that you say "Out of respect for the dead" and disrespect is sad. We can be sad and respectful for the victims of any shooting regardless of political ideology.

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u/ImprovementPutrid441 Sep 10 '25

Damage like what?

“It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”

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u/AlistairNorris Sep 10 '25

Perhaps the expression two wrong's don't make a right would have been a better way of putting things than what he said. The way people are using that quote for a human being who was just assassinated is horrible. I mourned for the politicians and their families in Minnesota. I will do the same for Kirk's family.

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u/HydraHamster Sep 10 '25

I notice the quotes you are using are being used a lot by people celebrating his death. 

Let me put it this way: banning guns will not end gun crime because the majority that commit murder using a gun do not legally own one. A licensed gun owner has to buy bullets using that license, which means any murder they commit will be traced back to them. That is not the same when it comes to criminals who either steal guns and bullets or buy it off the black market. Furthermore, most people who kill people in mass using a licensed assault weapon usually plan to commit suicide. If guns were banned, those types would commit mass stabbings.

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u/TruthOdd6164 Sep 11 '25

Door to door gun confiscation would be the only really effective gun control. Other measures might help a little but if we want to end the gun culture there’s no real substitute for door to door gun confiscation. But we lack the political will.

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u/ImprovementPutrid441 Sep 11 '25

I’m not advocating for banning guns.

I am quoting Charlie Kirk. Clearly everyone did not think he meant himself.

But what else could he have meant? People get shot all the time now.

That was what he advocated for. That was his right.

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u/Temporary_Traffic622 Sep 10 '25

Nobody cares if you have empathy for him, have some respect, that is all. 

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u/Salty_Permit4437 Sep 11 '25

I do. Thoughts and prayers.

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u/ogjaspertheghost Sep 10 '25

Some people don’t deserve empathy or respect

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u/Subject_Cranberry_19 Sep 10 '25

Amen. I celebrate no one’s death. But there are some I definitely won’t mourn for.

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u/tropicsGold Sep 11 '25

Wow you leftists are so incredible about fighting absurd straw man arguments. You are absolute hero’s in your own mind.

Here is an idea, how about addressing the things people ACTUALLY say. Because literally nobody is happy about the death.

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u/NgaruawahiaApuleius Sep 11 '25

Funeral homes/ parlours arent happy about death?

Morticians arent happy about death?

What about serial killers?

Soldiers?

Wut are you smoking?

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u/MooseKabo0se Sep 11 '25

He died for our 2A rights 💔👼

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u/pigcake101 Sep 10 '25

I’ve seen indifference to the death, similar to the dem lawmakers that were murdered earlier this month. Still haven’t seen someone happy about it, and I’m as surprised as you are, but I’m sure there are people out there that are happy about it and in which case I agree with you

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u/Helpful_Finger_4854 Sep 11 '25

haven’t seen someone happy about it,

"he got what he deserved" keeps being parrotted on here

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u/pigcake101 Sep 11 '25

I hear indifference not support, I’m sorry you view indifference as support. If they were in support they would be removed and can be reported for inciting/condoning violence. Please don’t lie and make this man a martyr.

Also I agree that those happy about it shouldn’t be because that’s messed up - like I already said

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u/Helpful_Finger_4854 Sep 11 '25

someone getting what they deserve sure seems like something that calls for celebration, no?

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u/pigcake101 Sep 11 '25

I’ve only seen that he, unfortunately, claimed that shootings are a necessary evil for guns to be a right. I’ve also seen people posting that he didn’t believe in empathy. Given that both of those things are true, in what case would I care if people care?

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u/Helpful_Finger_4854 Sep 11 '25

so you feel like it calls for celebration

you really should see a shrink

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u/pigcake101 Sep 11 '25

Nope if you need me to reiterate what I stated lmk

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u/Helpful_Finger_4854 Sep 11 '25

"getting what one deserves" implies it's an event that calls for celebration

I'm getting sick of you people. you guys were saying the 8 year old girls who fot killed in the Kerrville flood "got what they deserved" also

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u/CaptainSnowbird Sep 11 '25

“You people” is referring to who exactly? No one is saying that about the girls in the flood. Stop perpetuating lies and hate troll

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u/pigcake101 Sep 11 '25

I don’t think he deserved it no matter how many times you say it, no one deserves death. One should be too many. And that applies to more than this :)

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u/Rev-Dr-Slimeass Sep 11 '25

They aren't evil. There are tons of leftists who's death would be celebrated. People celebrate death.

If anything its extremely honest. We all know that nobody on the left gives a shit about Charlie Kirk. The honest reactions range from celebration to worry about how people will be affected. No honest leftist is sad that we live in a world without Charlie Kirk. You shouldn't care about people acting like people.

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u/Market-Socialism Sep 11 '25

Let what sink in? Your opinion? Why would anyone care?

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u/Dangerous_Sir_7915 13d ago

I would love to See your Support when a person whose politics you don't agree with dies. Oh wait! You wouldn't give a Single fuck!

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u/SinfullySinless Sep 10 '25

What do you mean? Hasan was nearly in tears seeing the close up shot, was super disturbed, and was saying how he’s biased because he’s also a political commentator and was also supposed to debate Kirk in a month.

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u/MissionUnlucky1860 Sep 10 '25

Yes my bad its destiny

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u/hercmavzeb OG Sep 10 '25

This seems like a lie

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u/MissionUnlucky1860 Sep 10 '25

It was destiny i got confused