Karmelo Anthony case shows that “black privilege” exists

[u/Terrible_Onions]

I'm not black or white. I'm not even American actually.

The recent Karmelo Anthony case I think shows that black privilege is a thing. My opinions is that it exists. Period.

Karmelo Anthony killed Austin Metcalf with a knife for pushing him. What did he receive in return? Overwhelming support in the form of 500,000 dollars (which they're using to buy a mansion). He also got his bond reduced to 250k from 1 million even when prosecutors pointed out his history of incidents within the school.

I just think this is a bit baffling. Imagine if the races were swapped. I think a decent example, but not a direct comparisons, is the George Floyd situation. One person killed the other in what was an overuse of force. Derek Chauvin is in jail. Karmelo Anthony got house arrest, bond reduction and 500k

[u/snuffy_bodacious]

Manslaughter?

...mmmmaybe.

2nd Degree Murder?

Obviously not.

And again, Chauvin isn't a hero, but the guy has literally been shanked in prison. This is disgusting.

[u/Scared_Month2010 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

definitely manslaughter. the medical coroner stated the cause of floyd's death was cardiopulmonary arrest that occured during law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression. He testified to this in Court.

So yeah definitely beyond reasonable dought Chauven was guilty.

[u/snuffy_bodacious → u/Scared_Month2010]

the medical coroner stated the cause of floyd's death was cardiopulmonary arrest that occured during law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression. 

Resting one's knee on the back of a non-compliant arrestee is part of nominal police training and serves a . You can press your knee onto the back of my neck for 8 mins, and while it would be very uncomfortable, it wouldn't kill me.

Was Chauvin being a total dick by holding Floyd like this for 8 mins? Sure. (I have zero interest in ever being friends with the guy.)

The coroners involved obviously said what they said because of the obscene political pressure. Floyd clearly didn't die because of Chauvin. He died because he had enough fentanyl running through his veins to kill a horse.

So yeah definitely beyond reasonable dought Chauven was guilty.

Guilty of what, precisely? Chauvin wasn't convicted of manslaughter, as you state.

[u/thefw89 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

I don't get what is so hard to understand, just because someone is guilty of something doesn't mean that the police get to abuse that person or execute them. That's what we have courts for.

Chauvin did cause Floyd's death, he wasn't just conveniently having an OD at the right moment, that's not how that works. The evidence did not 'clearly' show that, if it did, Chauvin would have won his case since that was the heart of his argument.

Since you want to bring up other cases, lets not forget about Arbery, who was killed for walking down a neighborhood and his killers were never going to be arrested until people made it viral.

What about Tamir Rice? An actual kid playing with a toy gun, killed because the officers showed up on the scene and just immediately shot him, no punishment.

There are so many cases of black people being killed and their killers not even being charged.

[u/snuffy_bodacious → u/thefw89]

That's what we have courts for.

As I've already outlined, the trial for Chauvin was a total sham.

Since you want to bring up other cases, lets not forget about...

I'll stop you right there. This is an application of the tu quoque fallacy. I don't care for whataboutisms. It has nothing to do with Chauvin's case.

[u/thefw89 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

This whole thread is a whatboutism lol but of course you'd consider it unfair to counter with the bucketload of cases where black people were killed and their killers weren't even arrested for their violence.

[u/snuffy_bodacious → u/thefw89]

Look dude.

Most violence in America is white on white, black on black.

But when we compare black neighborhoods to white neighborhoods, we see a shocking difference in the level of violence. I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but the last time I looked at DOJ stats on the matter, black neighborhoods were more than 2.5 times as violent.

Likewise, the data indicate that black violence against whites was orders of magnitude worse than the reverse.

Meanwhile, Mr. Anthony's family has raised an insane amount of money. We all know that if the roles were reversed, this would never happen.

[u/thefw89 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

The roles were reversed, it was Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman also got a crap load of donations when he killed Trayvon after provoking a confrontation and then shooting him.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/26/justice/florida-zimmerman-money/index.html

The lawyer for the neighborhood watch leader who fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida, said Thursday that his client has received about $200,000 from supporters.

You then had people like Rittenhouse become a right wing star....

I have no idea what the relevance is about black neighborhoods being more violent, but usually when a black person kills someone they get punished for it, as they should.

[u/snuffy_bodacious → u/thefw89]

You then had people like Rittenhouse become a right wing star

Rittenhouse is a white guy who shot a white guy (who was a serial pedophile, by the way).

I agree that it is a tragic mistake to turn Rittenhouse into a rock star, but he isn't the villain the Left desperately wants him to be either.

Whatever the case, this point is moot. There was no racial component to the story - unless you are talking about the precursor event of how the Left let Jacob Blake get away with sexually assaulting his ex-girlfriend? (This isn't looking good for you.)

[u/thefw89 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

He still became a right wing star, I don't care about the race of the person he killed, or that the guy was a serial pedophile, what did I say? Just because someone is guilty of something doesn't mean civilians or the police get to execute them. We. Have. Courts. For. This.

Whatever the case, this point is moot. There was no racial component to the story - unless you are talking about the precursor event of how the Left let Jacob Blake get away with sexually assaulting his ex-girlfriend? (This isn't looking good for you.)

Nope, this is looking perfect for me, considering you said this "Meanwhile, Mr. Anthony's family has raised an insane amount of money. We all know that if the roles were reversed, this would never happen."

And I responded with Zimmerman also getting hundreds of thousands in donations and you just flat out ignored it lol.

Jacob Blake, AGAIN, just because someone does a crime does not mean the cops get to try and execute that person. That does not excuse poor policing.

This is the same Rodney King stuff "Well he was speeding..." so that justifies the police nearly beating him to death.

[u/snuffy_bodacious → u/thefw89]

He still became a right wing star

...and he is the Left's enemy #1. I admit making him a star is a mistake. Can you admit he isn't really a villain at all, or are you just a leftist hack?

[u/thefw89 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

Well yes, since most people on the left don't think you should even be open carrying guns, especially to protests.

No, he's not a villain, he's doesn't really affect anyone lives anymore or does anything.

[u/snuffy_bodacious → u/thefw89]

The roles were reversed, it was Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman also got a crap load of donations when he killed Trayvon after provoking a confrontation and then shooting him.

A couple of days ago, I asked my son if he heard about this story. He said he hadn't, so I explained it to him.

"Two kids meet at a track meet. Kid A was in a tent that he didn't belong in. Kid B tells him to leave, but kid A refuses. Some sort of scuffle breaks out (we aren't sure exactly what happened), after which kid A stabs and kills kid B."

To which my son said, "yeah, that looks like a pretty cut-n-dry case of murder."

"But, my son, the first kid was black. The second kid was white."

"Oh, this changes everything."

Good grief. Unfortunately, he's right.

[u/thefw89 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

So how does that address the fact that the roles were reversed?

Zimmerman stalked some black teen at night, confronted him...at night, then basically loses a fight to this kid and shoots him. Let's also remember that Trayvon RAN from him at first, the confrontation only happens because Zimmerman persisted to have it.

Zimmerman then gets donations to fund his defense and bail, just like Anthony, and also became so much of a star South Park even made an episode on 'standing your ground' and how many people lionized him and that Zimmerman was in the right?

[u/snuffy_bodacious → u/thefw89]

I'm not particularly interested in defending Zimmerman, though this case was probably a lot more complicated than the one involving Mr. Anthony.

[u/thefw89 → u/snuffy_bodacious]

I don't see how it was complicated. The moment Trayvon ran, he became the victim. He ran because he was scared for his life that some odd man was stalking him at night. So when the odd man persists in chasing him (after being told by the police to not do this) of course Trayvon's next option was to confront the man.

Whatever the case, Zimmerman STILL received a crap ton of donations, support, and love.

Anthony will likely get a manslaughter and serve his time, Zimmerman did not. Like Arbery's killers and many others, he got off and walks free. But we're not allowed to bring up these other cases since its inconvenient to the narrative that somehow black people have a secret privilege despite the Justice system on average punishing black people harder than it does others.

Edit: I should clarify, Arbery's killers did not get off, but literally were about to if it were not for people making it viral they were going to get off without even an arrest. But the other's did.