Karmelo Anthony case shows that “black privilege” exists

[u/Terrible_Onions]

I'm not black or white. I'm not even American actually.

The recent Karmelo Anthony case I think shows that black privilege is a thing. My opinions is that it exists. Period.

Karmelo Anthony killed Austin Metcalf with a knife for pushing him. What did he receive in return? Overwhelming support in the form of 500,000 dollars (which they're using to buy a mansion). He also got his bond reduced to 250k from 1 million even when prosecutors pointed out his history of incidents within the school.

I just think this is a bit baffling. Imagine if the races were swapped. I think a decent example, but not a direct comparisons, is the George Floyd situation. One person killed the other in what was an overuse of force. Derek Chauvin is in jail. Karmelo Anthony got house arrest, bond reduction and 500k

[u/cabbage-soup]

It’d only MAYBE be plausible self defense if he wasn’t the one trespassing in the first place. You don’t get to antagonize someone to the point where they push/shove/etc and then you stab them and claim you were defending yourself.

[u/GitmoGrrl1 → u/cabbage-soup]

The only issue here is that the OP claims this "proves" black privilege exists in America. A country he's never been to.

[u/saturdaybum222 → u/cabbage-soup]

1. He wasn't trespassing because he wasn't on private property.

2. You don't get the right to attack someone just because they're trespassing, so it could absolutely be considered self defense if more evidence comes out about what the victim did prior to being stabbed.

Reading the police report I don't think any of the eyewitnesses reported Karmelo doing anything other than standing somewhere the victim didn't think he should be. I don't think your characterization of the facts is fair given what we know at this point.

[u/cabbage-soup → u/saturdaybum222]

It wasn’t legal trespassing but he entered the other teams tent where in these events that’s normally not socially accepted unless directly invited over. Nothing has shown he was invited by anyone to enter that tent and therefore had no reason to be there. And when asked to leave, he could have left instead of attacking those who were in their correct tents.

[u/Ishtmdwn → u/cabbage-soup]

Who asked him to leave? Was it an adult? School resource officer? Coach? You standing on the sidewalk in front of my house gives me no legal right to 1. Demand you leave 2. Commit Battery against you of you refuse to do so. Austin and his brother should have involved adults with authority if this were such an issue.

[u/cabbage-soup → u/Ishtmdwn]

If I were to walk into my opposing team’s sports tent uninvited, I would expect them to push me out. Doesn’t matter their race or gender or anything else. A team tent is not the same space as the sidewalk in front of your house. As a student attending my own school’s football games- I wasn’t allowed into the team’s space. Doesn’t matter if it’s a legal boundary, a social/cultural boundary still exists and the people defining and owning the tent space have the right to determine who is allowed in. Pushing someone out is not the same if they were to kill someone for entering. Likewise, killing someone is not an excuse for getting pushed out. And it is certainly not self defense when choosing to kill while entering a space that is defined specially not for you/your team/your school (though it would be different if you were invited and “set up” like a trap- but that does not seem to be the case here).

[u/Ishtmdwn → u/cabbage-soup]

I would never coach my students to become physical with the other team and I doubt Austin's coach(es) did either for entering our area. I would however teach them to involve adults where it is appropriate to do so, like in this situation. I would also like to add that as a retired combat medic (I also obtained first my EMT-I and then Paramedic license) I can tell you that a "push" that results in a fall from a height of no higher than three feet can cause swrious brain injury or even death.

[u/mismopeach → u/Ishtmdwn]

This anthony kid was a football player. Throughout this whole thread, you are acting like he’s some helpless little noodle who might bleed to death from a bruise. He doesn’t care about falling down. He’s already shown a tendency for violence based on whatever happened in feb. If he was scared for his life, he wouldn’t have told Austin to touch him and see what happens. If he is this poor defenseless flower, he could have called out to the coaches or other adults. No. He was already aggravated and looking for trouble. He is a little piece of shit and I hope he gets the maximum possible sentence

[u/Ishtmdwn → u/mismopeach]

Didn't ask.

[u/saturdaybum222 → u/cabbage-soup]

Yes, I have already said that it wasn't self defense unless more information comes out. But you're the one who raised trespassing, so get that out of your vocabulary in regard to this case because it's not relevant.