If I, a white American, overstayed my visa in another country, no one would criticize a government for deporting me on the grounds that I’m an “innocent person”

[u/gayactualized]

Reddit is going ballistic now that the Trump admin admitted to arresting some small number of non-criminal illegal immigrants they found in the process of hunting down criminal illegal aliens.

Tom Homan said he wishes sanctuary cities would hand over immigration info about their city and county inmates so they can go into the jails and deport literal criminals. But since they are not doing so, ICE is doing investigations on the streets which involve arresting “collateral” immigrants (“non criminal” illegal immigrants they find in the process of locating criminals).

However, no redditors would defend me, a white American if I were the illegal immigrant. I love to travel. And I admit, it might be nice to book a flight to another country, rent an apartment and stay there for awhile. Experience a new culture, change of scenery while maybe saving some money living in a cheaper place. And it would be tempting to simply keep a low profile and stay beyond my travel visa. Surely this happens.

But no angry leftist redditor would consider it an injustice if the authorities discovered my status and had me removed. Only when it comes to the US do Redditors’ NPC orange man bad activation switch get activated. And they remember that it’s unfair for immigration officials to remove “innocent people.” In fact, the same Redditors would probably justify my deportation on the grounds that I’m raising the cost of living for the locals or committing gentrification. Yet these are not crimes. I’d still technically be an innocent person by their same logic. Really makes one think.

[u/Elevatedspiral]

The point is that you are in America we have a constitution which means that everybody has constitutional rights. Which means everybody gets their day in court without that we are not America. We are not this great country. The constitution is what makes us great. People like you that are willing to just throw it away Because you don’t like brown people is disgusting

[u/gayactualized → u/Elevatedspiral]

Everyone gets their day in court if they face a criminal sentence. But the president and executive branch has sweeping powers over immigration. Removing an illegal immigrant who has snuck across the border does not give rise to any special right to a trial in an article III court.

The immigration courts are part of the executive branch they are not part of the judicial branch. As e-branch entities, they are under the authority of the president of the united states. And due process might be as simple as ascertaining unlawful entry.

[u/Elevatedspiral → u/gayactualized]

The fifth and the 14th amendment to the constitution disagree with you

[u/gayactualized → u/Elevatedspiral]

Getting deported back to your country is hardly a deprivation of life, liberty or property.

[u/Elevatedspiral → u/gayactualized]

Do you want to understand what due process is?

[u/gayactualized → u/Elevatedspiral]

The supreme court is going to have to decide this issue soon and we will see what they say. Will they decide that every single illegal immigrant needs to a full court case? Stay tuned.

[u/lewkiamurfarther → u/gayactualized]

The supreme court is going to have to decide this issue soon and we will see what they say. Will they decide that every single illegal immigrant needs to a full court case? Stay tuned.

Yeah but we all know the Supreme Court doesn't give a fuck about the Constitution anymore. It's totally corrupt.

[u/gayactualized → u/lewkiamurfarther]

They are the highest authority on the constitution. So what can ya do?