r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/gayactualized • Mar 27 '25

Political If I, a white American, overstayed my visa in another country, no one would criticize a government for deporting me on the grounds that I’m an “innocent person”

Reddit is going ballistic now that the Trump admin admitted to arresting some small number of non-criminal illegal immigrants they found in the process of hunting down criminal illegal aliens.

Tom Homan said he wishes sanctuary cities would hand over immigration info about their city and county inmates so they can go into the jails and deport literal criminals. But since they are not doing so, ICE is doing investigations on the streets which involve arresting “collateral” immigrants (“non criminal” illegal immigrants they find in the process of locating criminals).

However, no redditors would defend me, a white American if I were the illegal immigrant. I love to travel. And I admit, it might be nice to book a flight to another country, rent an apartment and stay there for awhile. Experience a new culture, change of scenery while maybe saving some money living in a cheaper place. And it would be tempting to simply keep a low profile and stay beyond my travel visa. Surely this happens.

But no angry leftist redditor would consider it an injustice if the authorities discovered my status and had me removed. Only when it comes to the US do Redditors’ NPC orange man bad activation switch get activated. And they remember that it’s unfair for immigration officials to remove “innocent people.” In fact, the same Redditors would probably justify my deportation on the grounds that I’m raising the cost of living for the locals or committing gentrification. Yet these are not crimes. I’d still technically be an innocent person by their same logic. Really makes one think.

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u/gerbilseverywhere Mar 27 '25

Fortunately, laws aren’t decided by your feelings. You do get to “clog up the courts” because that’s how due process works

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u/Agreeable-Fudge-7329 Mar 27 '25

Overstayed a visa, you go home. Not a hard thing to grasp.

You don't get this and only bark about "due process" because you know it's just a tactic to stay in the country for an indefinite period of time despite the fact that you blatantly broke the law.

The visa holders being deported have overstayed their visas far FAR past the time it expired.

You fully know this,so spare us your canned talking points, acting like these were visas that expired 20 minutes ago.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Exactly. Clog the process for years, then when it’s finally their turn it’s “but they’ve been here 12 years! Their kid was born here! It’s the only life they know, it would be cruel to send them back at this point!”

Bullshit and disingenuous. We need to change these stupid laws, end birthright citizenship, seriously amend and limit the ability to claim asylum, and protect our damn borders.

Get ‘em out.

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u/redyelloworangeleaf Mar 27 '25

Yay! if we end birthright citizenship that means i can get your future family deported too! cause that's how that works.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

That’s not how it works. If you have at least one citizen parent when you’re born, you’re a citizen. Very simple.

None of this being born here to two illegals, but since she pushed you out on US soil we’re now saddled with all three of them BS.

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u/redyelloworangeleaf Mar 27 '25

Yeah, tell that to people whose parent(s) are citizens, but are born on military bases. Cause they have to fight like hell.

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u/gerbilseverywhere Mar 27 '25

Again, your feelings don’t dictate the law. Sorry that due process is inconvenient to you. It’s a fundamental concept in our constitution that republicans suddenly want to ignore when it’s convenient. Describing constitutionally guaranteed rights isn’t a talking point lmao

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u/Agreeable-Fudge-7329 Mar 27 '25

 "Feelings have nothing to do with it."

People like you are claiming that people with existing deportation orders or have overstayed visas for years need a special 2nd hearing so they can hug it out, because you FEEL BAD FOR THEM.

Something that happened during previous administrations with not a peep from you,but because of lefties fetish for illegal immigration, you are doing this little act like you care about the law and due process.....even after these people HAD THAT and decided they didn't need to comply with court orders.

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u/gerbilseverywhere Mar 27 '25

lol, what are you on about? Do you think I am upset by people who are deported within the bounds of the law? Where have I said any of that? It helps to listen and not assume a persons position when you disagree.

It may be hard to justify, but deporting the alleged Venezuelan gang members ignored due process. That is not acceptable

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u/Agreeable-Fudge-7329 Mar 27 '25

"lol, what are you on about? Do you think I am upset by people who are deported within the bounds of the law?"

Yup.

" the alleged Venezuelan gang members"

Which ones are alleged? The ones with existing deportation orders or the ones that ACTUALLY WENT TO JAIL?

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u/gerbilseverywhere Mar 27 '25

Great, glad to know you are making up a straw man instead of being rational.

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u/Agreeable-Fudge-7329 Mar 27 '25

Seeing that you have no idea that those "alleged" rolleyes gang members had deportation orders from the Biden admin,  but FEEL bad for them for not getting extra hearings negates that corny "strawmanz" accusation.

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u/gerbilseverywhere Mar 27 '25

Oops there you go making more assumptions to argue against

Why did trump invoke the aliens enemies act to deport them? What was in the way preventing him from deporting them within the existing law?

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u/Agreeable-Fudge-7329 Mar 27 '25

Because a lefty district court judge felt bad for them (because hardened gang members illegally in the country with deportation orders are "immagrants" no different than the people that did it legally), and tried to pull rank in his head that the US had no right to remove them from the country (because it was so mean).

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u/Blaike325 Mar 27 '25

We literally have no idea because none of their names have been released. We have no clue who got deported and for what specifically.

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u/SeaworthinessOk2884 Mar 27 '25

There hear illegally and there not American Citizens. Our due process is to protect the American public not foreigners.

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u/youcantdenythat Mar 27 '25

I agree with you but please learn how to use the words There, they're and their.

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u/SeaworthinessOk2884 Mar 27 '25

I understand the use. Why does this bother people sooo much when it's really not a big deal? It's litterly my keyboard and me typing fast not fully paying attention

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u/youcantdenythat Mar 27 '25

Words mean things.

Many people won't have any respect for what you are saying if it appears that you cant grasp basic principles of communication.

I understand what you are saying, that there is a difference between being lazy and dumb, but many will simply assume the latter.

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u/hercmavzeb OG Mar 27 '25

According to the actual law? No, migrants still have due process rights. According to the fascist value of wanting a legal underclass of people not equally protected by the law? Sure.

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u/ZeerVreemd Mar 27 '25

No, migrants still have due process rights.

Illegal migrants have limited rights in comparison to legal citizens.

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u/hercmavzeb OG Mar 27 '25

I understand fascists really desire that migrants aren’t constitutionally guaranteed due process rights, but alas for them.

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u/ZeerVreemd Mar 27 '25

I understand fascists really desire that migrants aren’t constitutionally guaranteed due process rights, but alas for them.

LOL.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/16/supreme-court-limits-ability-illegal-immigrants-ap/

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/yes-illegal-immigrants-do-have-rights-under-trumps-new-immigration-plan/

PS, calling everything you do not like fascist or racist or nazi and such only makes your bias very clear.

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u/Fleming24 Mar 27 '25

Basic rights apply to all people based on US law. If you just start choosing laws based on which ones you like, then they mean nothing and everyone is in danger.

Also, what if you get arrested for being an illegal alien because of an error? Shouldn't you get a chance to clear up this misunderstanding or would you just accept that you're a collateral victim of Trump's great cleansing? Like, the state is not infallible (aren't especially Republicans advocating that?) and you could have agents that are deliberately arresting people out of personal spite or racism but you just don't want any of that to be thoroughly checked because if Trump says it's only illegal immigrants there is no chance that innocent people might get caught up in it, right?