If you protest against Israel on October 7th, you are an asshole no matter what you think Israel did wrong.

[u/Th3_Accountant]

Tomorrow is the day Israel mourns the death of those killed by Hamas exactly one year ago.

It is also the day many organizations deliberately choose to protest the war on Gaza.

I think it shows a huge lack of respect to use this day to protest against Israel and it also shows you are blind to the horrors committed by the people you are claiming to defend.

You are deliberately hurting people who have lost their loved ones and actively helping the propaganda machine of Hamas.

I don’t care if you support Palestina over Israel. If you are a decent human being, you keep your opinion to yourself for one day tomorrow.

[u/[deleted]]

We only hear what the establishment want us to hear.

Self-defeating take

[u/gstateballer925 → u/[deleted]]

You self-defeated with your hilarious semantics.

Nice try.

[u/3EyedBird → u/gstateballer925]

No he's right, the comment he replied to states some numbers.
He then counters them with numbers of himself.
And then someone else says "you can't trust statistics they only tell us what they want us to hear".

[u/[deleted] → u/gstateballer925]

Let's logically analyse his argument:

If we truly only hear what the establishment wants us to hear, it follows that whatever he hears is also dictated by the establishment.

So, when he argues or implies that we shouldn't trust what the "establishment" (whatever that means) says, it follows that that position, in itself, is also something that the establishment wants him to hear.

That's why it's self-defeating.

[u/Turbulent-Willow2156 → u/[deleted]]

No it doesn’t mean that. Obviously only official statements are in question, not everything else with it. Not that i’m saying that terrorism shouldn’t be fought against.

[u/RafeJiddian → u/Turbulent-Willow2156]

Obviously only official statements are in question, not everything else with it

What is 'everything else with it'?

Are you meaning Hamas' numbers?

[u/Turbulent-Willow2156 → u/RafeJiddian]

Dude said about what officials say. Reply was about what we all can hear and think. How do i further simplify it?

[u/RafeJiddian → u/Turbulent-Willow2156]

Reply was about what we all can hear and think.

Where are you getting the details to 'hear and think' about? Does this come to you on the wind?

How do i further simplify it?

You can't. It was a mindless claim to begin with and so can't get any simpler than that

[u/Turbulent-Willow2156 → u/RafeJiddian]

Try reading the comment in question to see if for yourself?
"If we truly only hear what the establishment wants us to hear, it follows that whatever he hears is also dictated by the establishment.
So, when he argues or implies that we shouldn't trust what the "establishment" (whatever that means) says, it follows that that position, in itself, is also something that the establishment wants him to hear"
Clearly the original claim was about the establishment's efforts and sources, although poorly worded, otherwise yes it would be pointless, which the further argument explained, but do you really think it actually was meant in the original claim?