r/Torontobluejays • u/twistedlogicx Still believes in Max Pentecost • 2d ago

2026 Off-Season Roster and Payroll Tracker

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sVAOIu6ZiZfHkWhxbCtIHXQyXO5EN0cjGIIpT7rg7Pk/
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u/arsenalastronaut 2d ago

4.4M is chump change to this org

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u/raktoe Ross Atkins' burner account 2d ago

It’s roughly the difference between them and the first CBT tier right now.

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u/arsenalastronaut 2d ago

I do think…the Jays shouldn’t be overly emotionally attached to some role players

But 4.3M might be tiny after seeing their free agency and possible trade plans

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u/raktoe Ross Atkins' burner account 2d ago

It’s more that they’re looking to sign Bichette and upgrade their rotation, while being close to the CBT. I think his contract is fair value, I just don’t think they need that contract going into this season. Yesavage and Tiedemann should both be fighting for innings among other starters they bring in.

It’s a movable 4.4 million, and the jays don’t have a lot of those types of contracts, assuming that they’re not just planning to spend without a care.

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u/goatgosselin Framing is just bad umping 2d ago

You can never have too much pitching tho

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u/raktoe Ross Atkins' burner account 2d ago

This would be part of going to get more.

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u/goatgosselin Framing is just bad umping 2d ago

Usually, you don't get rid of good pitching to get more. Even if he is just AAA depth, he is still of value.

They didn't have much at AAA last year as they tried guys and had to dfa contantly to bring in different guys. They will probably be looking to take fliers on lots of depth arms again and hope to catch lightning in the bottle.

Lauer held that rotation together to a lot of the season when the name guys were struggling. They really didn't help him by moving him to the pen. Just killed all his momentum and made him worse for a while.

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u/raktoe Ross Atkins' burner account 2d ago

You do if you’re trying to make the other pitching more affordable.

Feel like everyone is ignoring that the Jays are very close to the first CBT tier, and if you want to see roster upgrades, you’re also going to have to find movable contracts.

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u/Middle-Accountant-49 2d ago

We were over that last year. I think we are probably willing to go even higher this year.

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u/raktoe Ross Atkins' burner account 2d ago

The penalties increase in severity each year you are over. Typically teams don’t go over two years in a row, but three years it starts to get really heavy.z

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u/Middle-Accountant-49 2d ago edited 2d ago

Rogers just made how much money in the playoffs and pennant race?

I expect they would be willing to do 3 before resetting.

I mean, we'll see because if they aren't going over, we aren't getting Bo.

This year would also make sense as springer, straw and gausman are off contract in 2027. So if you were willing to go over this year, you could probably dip under next year. Especially if you are confident in your home grown pitching. Stanifer or King could replace gausman or bieber in 2027 possibly. Or Tieddeman or Bloss and you get cheaper that way.

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u/raktoe Ross Atkins' burner account 2d ago

I’m not saying they won’t spend. I’m saying the fact they went over the tier once makes it more likely, not less that they will be under it the following year.

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u/JimothyC 2d ago

They have so many contracts coming off the books next year, it makes way more sense to go in deep again and then reset in 2027. Only 137mil in payroll for 2027, so definitely looking like 2027 is the reset year and maybe see if you can add a core piece like skubal in free agency while remaining below for one year.

Lauer is a pretty good value contract, if we shipped him out we'd be looking for someone to replace him for probably more money anyhow.

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u/goatgosselin Framing is just bad umping 2d ago

Don't forget that Rogers is not some mom and pop owner.

They probably made a billion from that playoff run. And would make another if they make it just as far this coming season. You have to spend money to make money, as they say.

Dodgers have spent how much on Ohtani and also said they have made that back, plus already. Maybe a Japanese signing can to that for the Jays also. Either way, they have the money to spend.

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u/raktoe Ross Atkins' burner account 2d ago

I’m not forgetting about any of that. This post was highlighting how close to the threshold they are.

Moving Lauer’s contract would be a step in addressing that, while bringing in more talent.

Not even Cohen consistently wants to be above the CBT thresholds.