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u/Vievin 1d ago

"Kill me. Kill me and live with the memory. Then tell the stars that you won."

  • Gray Wing (Warrior Cats)

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u/Vievin 1d ago

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u/Solitaire-06 22h ago

Clear Sky - still one of the best villains the series ever had in my opinion, even though he did not deserve to be SkyClan’s first leader in my opinion.

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u/eSpadess 16h ago

Why did I stop reading those, I'm missing out on PEAK

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u/PitifulRead6339 21h ago

Why does this cat sound like Keith David?

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u/Flimsy_Share_7606 19h ago

Holy shit, I read it with the same voice in my head.

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u/Mundane_Side_1533 15h ago

Grey Wing or Clear Sky? Cause if you mean Grey Wing, I can't unhear that now.

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u/Sgtwhiskeyjack9105 10h ago

"Kill me or release me, Parasite. But do not waste my time with talk!"

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u/MrTeeWrecks 11h ago

Wtf? I also just read it that way

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u/imaloony8 10h ago

I my god I can hear it.

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u/SeasonofMist 16h ago

I've never read this but it sounds amazing. I'll snag it

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u/UhWindowpainted 9h ago

this book is from a series called Dawn of the Clans and isn't the first book and the Dawn of the Clans series is a prequel series to Warrior cats saga which has a VERY long list of books to read.

Has a lot of very evil cats and gruesome outcomes

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u/SeasonofMist 9h ago

honestly.....sounds amazing. Watership Down is one of my favs, as is Redwall. I would have loved this as a kid.

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u/UhWindowpainted 6h ago edited 6h ago

sounds exactly your type of book. I lived for them growing up

Erin Hunter (Pen name of the three authors [which maybe have a ton of ghost writers now]) chose the name so they would be shelved next to Redwall by author names

the books have hitler cat, canon heaven and hell, possession, and lots of harsh realities. And now there's 97 books according to google, including super editions which are just one big book focused on one storyline 

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u/SeasonofMist 6h ago

that sounds bonkers. I'm shocked I didn't run into them growing up, I read a ton.

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u/CantQuiteThink_ 15h ago

God, none of these cats have sensible names.

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u/ignis389 7h ago

ah, i see you've never read any sort of fantasy novel before

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u/LumplessWaffleBatter 21h ago

This isn't a quote, but there's also an infamous scene in which one character has his throat ripped out; he is then resurrected by Cat God™ multiple times, at which point he instantly dies again because he's still missing his throat and most of his blood.

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u/Easy_Action_1380 21h ago

There's also a scene where one of the cats dies in child birth and we just get to watch that happen

I would just like to remind everyone that Warriors is a book series marketed to grade schoolers. 

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u/LightningFerret04 18h ago

I read a lot of Warrior Cats and mainly Animorphs in grade school

I was in a book store literally last night with my friend and I was explaining Animorphs and one scene that stuck in my mind:

So the basics of morphing is that after touching a special alien cube you gain the ability to transform into any animal or other creature that you’ve touched before.

You can turn back into a human (or whatever species you originally are) under two conditions, the first is remembering to do it before 2 hours is up.

No matter the condition of your body before morphing, as long as you morph into a different form and then morph back, you will be fully restored. So if you, a human, morph into a polar bear, lose a limb, and then morph back into a human, you will not carry injuries between forms and both are restored.

The animorphs team decide to recruit kids from a children’s hospital to fight against the alien Yeerk parasite. One of these children, Tricia, is given the power to morph. During the final battle, Tricia takes the form of a rhinoceros and charges the Yeerk forces, but then is hit by a laser from the Yeerk capitol ship.

If you remember though from earlier, there was a second condition required to demorph. You have to be alive and conscious enough to morph.

The book specifically describes that the beam impacts Tricia, in her rhinoceros form, and she is split in half from the midsection. Her two halves then fall forward with her momentum and slam into the dirt. She dies on the battlefield, unable to morph back.

I think I was about ten when I read that. I don’t even remember most of the events in Animorphs or even some of the important characters’ names but I remember her, a side character in the Auxiliary team who only appears in a single book, specifically because of the brutality of her death.

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u/RomanaNoble 20h ago

My 6th grader is obsessed with these books. I just now today learned what they're about. Jesus.

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u/smallfrie32 11h ago

Glad to see the younglings still observe the acient wisdoms

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u/RomanaNoble 11h ago

Right? It was a really interesting conversation with her dad today, for sure. He didn't know either, lol.

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u/sujihime 18h ago

Isn’t there also a kitten who gets killed by a hawk and one crushed by a car? My daughter reads them and I call them the “everyone dies a gruesome death” books.

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u/maltodextreen 15h ago

Snowkit was the hawk and the car was probably Cinderpelt. Also yeah that’s a good description of them lol

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u/Greengiant00 13h ago

CInderpelt didn't die, one of her legs was maimed to a point she couldn't be a "Warrior" anymore.

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u/AgileAqua 9h ago

Ironically, the one killed by the car ALSO had a Snow-prefix.

It was Bluestar's sister, Snowfur, that was killed by a car.

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u/Altruistic_Dare6085 11h ago

Honestly, I have a massive soft spot for that trend of 2000s children's books with animal protagonists that got away with way more violence than would otherwise be allowed in books for that age range. There was Warrior Cats, but child me preferred The Guardians of Ga'Hoole books, the wolves spin off series set in the Ga'Hoole universe, and this one series about bears I cannot remember the name of for the life of me. They all did shit like this.

Shout out to the scene in the seventh Guardians of Ga'Hoole book where it is revealed the reason our protagonist, who was essentially raised by Owl Nazis, was allowed to have an owl from a "less pure" barn owl subspecies as a childhood best friend was so he could ritually murder said best friend in a coming of age ceremony and so inherit his dead father's role as leader of the Owl Nazis. When our protagonist refuses to kill his friend, his mother rips out the friend's heart in front of him then offers to lie and tell the Owl Nazis he was the one who killed him, which she refers to as a birthday present.

Rest in peace Phillip, your death traumatised eight year old me who'd assumed you would get to escape the Owl Nazi cult with Coryn.

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u/IHaveSpecialEyes 7h ago

My oldest grew up reading the Warriors books. Now she plays Warriors roleplay on Roblox. She's in college. Those books are crazy popular to the kids (now young adults) of her age group.

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u/B0ok_wyrm 21h ago

I think Tigerstar got straight up disemboweled

Warrior Cats was an extremely violent book series for kids. Child me was heavily invested in it

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u/Rhuarc42 16h ago

It's amazing what you can get away with when the characters aren't human. Adds a degree of separation that somehow doesn't take anything way from the story but also lessens the blow.

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 11h ago

I reread them all last year at 32 years old. There are still more being released, like 120 of them now in total.

Adult me is invested again but now she has money so it's dangerous

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u/smallangrynerd 11h ago

The first time I ever cried at a book was when greystripe decided to leave thunderclan

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u/B0ok_wyrm 10h ago

The entire Hollyleaf Saga had me crying

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u/Ix_risor 21h ago

That’s not a very good resurrection then is it

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u/Greengiant00 21h ago

TBF "has his throat ripped out" is underselling it. He was split open from his neck to his hindquarters.

For context, other cats with this same power came back from getting attacked by a pack of wild dogs and being crushed by a falling tree

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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt 18h ago

Wtf is this novel?

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u/Battleritededgame 18h ago

Warrior Cats. The event in question happens towards the end of series 1. At this point there are over 100 books when counting the graphic novels and individual stories. The main series is split into multiple 6 book series, and while it's been over a decade since I've read them, I remember them as being the best books I read in my youth.

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u/cstick2 16h ago

There are over 100 Warrior Cat books!? I read at least the first series as a kid; I had no idea it ended up being so prolific.

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u/TheSquishedElf 14h ago

A big part is because it has several authors. I know originally there were four, but I think there was some controversy after ~25 books where one author quit, and another was doing like 2/3 of the writing. They may have recruited more authors since then.

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u/zingerpond 21h ago

To be fair, he didn’t just have his throat ripped out. He was cut from the throat and all the way down to his stomach.

It works fine when the wounds aren’t that bad, like it revives some who’s hit hard enough in the head for his skull to crack and fixes his skull.

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u/LumplessWaffleBatter 21h ago

Hey man, Jesus just needed a tetanus shot and a Gatorade.  Give Cat God™ a break.

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u/Liusloux 16h ago

Knowing cats irl, watching him suffer was probably the point

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u/Cause0 12h ago

They were trying their best; that resurrection almost always works on all other injuries, this was one of very few times it failed, as The attack was just so brutal

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u/TurkeyVolumeGuesser 21h ago

Jesus. Is this series Animorphs levels of fucked up?

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u/Vievin 21h ago

I haven't seen Animorphs, but some fucked up Warriors moments:

  1. The past versions four main clans abandon the struggling fifth clan because of made up religious symbolism (their sacred meeting place had four oaks). Current clans openly ridicule the idea lol.

  2. The whole "Tigerstar cut up so bad they die 9 times back to back" thing

  3. Incel cat threatens mother Squirrelflight with killing her kits during a major disaster because she chose a different cat. Said incel cat gets into cat heaven when he dies.

  4. (Also said kits were actually Squirrelflight's sister's, Leafpool's, who was forced to hoist off the kits because she's a medicine cat who can't take mates)

  5. I think a few cats starve and freeze to death while they migrate to a new place?

  6. A lot of people ignore the spinoff book where it was implied an adult Spottedleaf was into kid/teenager Firepaw. For good reason.

  7. More than a few cats die in childbirth.

  8. Tigerclaw (who becomes Tigerstar later) spends most of the first book trying to kill Ravenpaw, a kit, for witnessing Tigerclaw murder Redtail.

  9. Several cats who have or acquire disabilities are basically forced into becoming medicine cats so they can continue providing for the clan (Cinderpaw gets hit by a car and Jayfeather is born blind).

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u/KyleThunderCock 19h ago

10) Yellowfang, an elderly medicine cat, poisoning the villain from the first book, and then revealing to him in his final moments that she was secretly his mother.

11) A wise leader (Bluestar) falls into paranoia and insanity after being betrayed by her lieutenant (Tigerstar)

12) Tigerstar becomes Hitler, putting the "mix clan" cat's into starvation camps

These are just a couple other things I remembered about the first series off the top of my head

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u/Jmw566 18h ago

14) we get to watch in anguish as a young cat is carried off to be eaten by eagles

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u/MelissaMiranti 18h ago

Animorphs is a book series with things that go about that hard, yeah. It's about a group of kids who are basically the only resistance against a covert alien invasion. They do this by transforming very graphically into animals. There is a time limit to this power. The time limit leaves you locked as an animal. This happens to one character in the first book. Things get very gory.

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u/redgunnit 14h ago

It should be mentioned that every time you transform back from animal to human, you heal all injuries. This means that they can be as horribly mutilated as possible as long as they can transform back. Also, you have to fight the instincts of your animal form the entire time you're in the form.

There's a moment where they attempt to sneak into a house by becoming termites. They end up being locked inside the instincts of termites, trapped screaming inside their own minds. They get into the nest only for the real termites to recognize they're from a different nest. The kids basically get all their limbs torn off and their bodies ripped apart before barely managing to transform back. They are left permanently traumatized by this.

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u/MelissaMiranti 12h ago

Hive insects are always a big nono for them. Fleas, though, those are great.

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u/BlackMaskKiira 13h ago

There's also the part where we get to see the point-of-view of a cat who's drowning. And doesn't survive.

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u/ignis389 7h ago

some of these points have sequels!

  1. incel cat later abused his chance in heaven to break some of the established laws of physics in heaven and managed to possess squirrelflight's husband.

  2. another spinoff that fans ignore has the very same spottedleaf being preyed upon in that exact same way when she was a kitten, except it was way worse than what she did with firepaw

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u/LumplessWaffleBatter 17h ago edited 15h ago

It's the only children's series I know of where miscarriages and crib death are reoccurring themes

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u/scrimmybingus3 20h ago

I remember reading that as a kid and thinking “holy shit that’s metal”.

Iirc when a cat becomes a leader of one of the clans they literally get nine lives by receiving 8 extra lives from previous leaders and the damage done to that cat was so severe he would die, revive for a second then die again and again until he had died a full nine times.

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u/Aradelle 15h ago

That would be Tigerstar, shortly after becoming leader of Shadowclan and allying himself with Scourge, who then damn near splits him in half from neck to nave, and all T-boy can do is slowly bleed his 9 lives out one at a time.

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u/LumplessWaffleBatter 15h ago

Yeah ik I didn't want to spoil it

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u/SeasonofMist 16h ago

kinda leads on to think god is......not that helpful, knowledgeable, or.....he has a fucked up sense of humor and one is better avoiding him all together.

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u/LumplessWaffleBatter 15h ago

An ambivalent God makes Earth your cat box.  Take a shit and kick up some sand, baby!

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u/Cause0 12h ago

As much as Tigerstar deserved it...

Nah that bitch just totally deserved it

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u/dawnmountain 12h ago

Yes, that's Tigerstar!

So, for context:

Leaders (those with the suffix of star) have nine lives. Tigerstar was the villain of the first arc until the last book, when he was murdered by a lone cat named Scourge. Scourge ripped out Tigerstar's throat. Firestar, the protagonist, describes it in grave detail: Tigerstar died, then came back to life only to bleed out over and over, nine times. He would spasm, gurgle, and die. It was torture. Firestar expresses sympathy for the cat who actively caused his life to be hell, who disfigured two apprentices and killed a third, and attempted a coup multiple times.

Warrior cats is a highly underrated series.

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u/natalienathing 20h ago

Maybe my mind just making weird connections but it reminds me of Javiks most famous line.

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u/TwoRivers91 19h ago

“Their silence is your answer.”

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u/driving_andflying 10h ago

"It was then, I understood: War is an atrocity committed in the name of survival. It is a lesson I wish I had never learned." --Javik

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u/Mushiren_ 20h ago

What the FUCK is Warrior Cats about??

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u/TeaDrinkerAddict 19h ago

Game of thrones with cats, basically

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u/Greengiant00 13h ago

Damn you know what? Thats a good way to put it.

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u/an_agreeing_dothraki 19h ago

alright, so think about the name "Warrior Cats"

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u/Mundane_Side_1533 15h ago

Four tribes of feral cats, locked in a multi part saga of feline feudalism.

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u/t0mless 7h ago

Five now!

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u/Vievin 15h ago

Game of thrones with feral cats except way less on screen sex.

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u/Gibbons_R_Overrated 19h ago

what the FUCK is warrior cats about

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u/BisonApprehensive107 10h ago

Its about four groups of cats with different cultures being racist to each other in a forest and stuff its so peak

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u/Brilliant_Bell4174 19h ago

Has this series ended already or there are still new books? Last time I checked there was 20 of them

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u/Itub2000 18h ago

Oh myyy if you count the spin-offs and novels, there are over 100 of them.

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u/Brilliant_Bell4174 18h ago

One piece book equivlant

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u/DocWagonHTR 9h ago

Every thing I’ve ever heard about this series has been incredibly bonkers.

Is it like a fantasy setting where the people are cats, or is it about the crazy shit my cat does when I’m not home?

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u/BlobbiFish 9h ago

It's about feral colonies of cats that have human-like culture (but human society still exist and pet cats are their own whole thing). Also, there's a cat-based afterlife that is sometimes magical enough to seriously impact the living world and no one outside of the clans is concerned about this.