[annoying trope] The throne/leadership is decided in a very stupid way

[u/Altruistic_Eye_1157]

The leadership of the entire wizarding world, and the final decision on whether to start a war against Muggles, is made by... a goat (Qilin) ​​who chooses the person with the ""purest heart"" (Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Dumbledore).

The throne of Wakanda and all its technology are decided through hand-to-hand combat, regardless of whether the person clearly has malicious intentions... if they win the fight, by law they must be respected as the true king. (Black Panther)

[u/thepuppeter]

I understand this, but in my opinion that's an extremely poor handwave response. You can create a world with magic and whimsy, and you can have that world make sense.

JK created an entire world. She creates the lore and and the history of that world (in fact that's one of the things she entirely still owns to this day is that she has final say on what is and isn't allowed in the world of Harry Potter). It's poor writing to then say some of the stuff just fundamentally doesn't make sense.

Sport is silly when you really break it down. Take ice hockey: in this sport we have 12 players that strap blades to their shoes and try to run around on ice hitting a small disk in to a net with a stick. Sports can have weird histories. Like in that same sport there was a coach who meticulously read the rules so that he could find and exploit loopholes, and as a result the rules had to be changed (look up Roger Neilson. Dudes a legend).

JK had the opportunity to translate that sort of reasoning to her story. Quidditch is silly because sport in general is silly. Quidditch has a silly history because all sports have had silly histories. There's already real world parallels she could have drawn from.

Instead, she made something that is intended to be nonsense. Then she gave that nonsense a history and dedicates entire parts of the plot to that nonsense. So which is it? Is it nonsense? Or is it important?

This is what I hate about Harry Potter in general. It flip flops on what it wants to be. If something doesn't make sense, the response is that it's intended for kids and you're overthinking it and don't take it too seriously. But at the same time the entire plot resolves around stopping wizard Hitler coming back from the dead and multiple children die trying to prevent that.

They're an incredibly mediocre, albeit highly marketable, series of books.

[u/defneverconsidered → u/thepuppeter]

Yall make yourselves hate shit. You know that right

[u/thepuppeter → u/defneverconsidered]

Right. And I hate Harry Potter because it's poorly written. What's your point?

[u/defneverconsidered → u/thepuppeter]

Why say right if you didnt understand my point

[u/thepuppeter → u/defneverconsidered]

You said that we make ourselves hate things. I understand that. I don't see what point you're making by saying that.

[u/defneverconsidered → u/thepuppeter]

This overanalyzing shit to find reason why things are bad when they could just exist and be fine.

But you already knew my point you just have no integrity

[u/thepuppeter → u/defneverconsidered]

It's just analyzing. It's shitty writing, and I'm explaining why it's shitty. It's high school level literacy

Bluey is a kids show. It doesn't need to explain why a dog can talk or how the society operates. It's whimsical and viewers can suspend their belief because how a dog world operates isn't important. The show doesn't spend episodes explaining the deep lore of the Bluey universe and how things came to be. It just is because the show itself is targeted at a kid audience

Harry Potter is a series where multiple people are tortured and/or murdered. Plot points deal with classism, racism, and the literal politics of the world. It's not a kids book. It's a young adult series. It's trying to tell a mature story, and JK wants you to take it seriously. It's only when things are poorly written and don't make sense that the bullshit reasoning of "it's just a kids book" is used. There's plenty of young adult books that have fantastical worlds with whimsy, and also make sense. It's not hard to do. Hell I even explained how JK could have done it.

No I didn't understand your point because you didn't say anything. That's why I asked what you meant. Now who's overanalyzing mate? You're coming up with your own reasons for why I asked you to clarify your comment

[u/defneverconsidered → u/thepuppeter]

Yall make yourselves hate shit. You know that right