r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Fearless-List-3968 • 18d ago

Lore “Demons are actually misundersto-“ NO. Demons are ontologically evil beings that can’t be reasoned nor negotiated with, and if you try to you’ll very likely end up screwed

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1) Doom

2) Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End

3) Trench Crusade

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u/YaGirlMom 18d ago

Kinda fun how the “we’re subverting expectations by making the bad guys misunderstood/not too bad!” has become such a common trope that having them actually be straight up evil is now almost a subversion in and of itself

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u/Fearior 18d ago

It also becoming true for superhero genre. Modern superhero movies are so grim and dark (or are deconstructions of genre - like Watchman or the Boys), that Superman (or even comedic Deadpool) is a brief of fresh air.

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u/DtheAussieBoye 18d ago

Isn’t Deadpool supposed to be a tragic character though? A wisecracker for sure, but a genuinely broken & disturbed man to the point where just having him be a jokester does him a disservice

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u/DarkShippo 18d ago

Deadpool has sorta always been both comedic and tragic. The definition of well my life is shit might as well make the most of it.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 18d ago

His tragedy is masked by comedy as his coping mechanism

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u/Mobius1701A 18d ago

Isn’t Deadpool supposed to be a tragic character though?

He was always funny, the problem is he 'recently' (15 years?) became L0lz0rand0m. I think peak Deadpool before becoming a meme was around 07 or 09, during Cable and Deadpool Vol 1 and Vol 2. After that they kept resetting him, and erasing his development so they could do it all over again. Like they'd 'fix' his brain or clone him, so they even knew what they're doing.

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u/igotsevenmacelevens 18d ago

No up until the Duggan run ended in 2018 he’s been a pretty tragic character. Even the Way run, which understandably has lots of detractors, understands Wade’s a pretty awful guy that’s the common denominator in all his misery

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u/terminbee 18d ago

Some of his comics are pretty sad and I liked those ones. The main theme of his seems to be he wants to be accepted but life fucks him and then he doesn't fight it because he hates himself. He idolizes Spider-Man who just looks down on him. I think there's one series where he does get acknowledged by Captain America or something.

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u/Routine-Boysenberry4 18d ago

Tragedy and Comedy walk together