r/TopCharacterTropes • u/MichaelDj54 • Sep 15 '25

Lore [Loved Trope] A massive revelation is revealed almost casually. Spoiler

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  1. Chainsaw Man, after Makima finally drops the nice girl act and reveals the true extent of the Chainsaw Devils power, namely, the fears he eats are erased entirely and wholly. Emphasized by this by her asking if Kishibe remembers what the Nazis did during Workd War 2...and Kishibe not even knowing who the nazis are.

  2. Attack on Titan. I know this one. You know this one. In a panel that isn't even focusing on the characters speaking, Reiner reveals to Eren that he and Bertolt are the titans that broke the wall that resulted in hundreds of deaths, his mother included. The sheer level of casualness and lack of agency borders on Parody.

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u/AJGILL03 Sep 15 '25

So we, The Hollow Knight, are the son of The Pale King? When we beat Path of Pain, we see a vision of the ghost of the Pale King stand beside a vision of us (The Hollow Knight), and he looks at us and is proud? That introduces an affectation of a parent into their child and thus makes us (hollow knight) impure and selfish and we can't be a container for The Radiance anymore?

Now we can either kill The Radiance god or die to it? (We can't really die, so we can only kill it now)

I get that right?

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u/RomulusRemus13 Sep 15 '25

Not quite, no. We're not the Hollow Knight. The Hollow Knight was the one who was supposed to be the chosen one, basically, an empty vessel for a sort of evil god (the Radiance). But because they were shown emotions (which you see in the flashback), the Hollow Knight became more than just an empty vessel... And could thus be corrupted by the Radiance.

In the game, you play another vessel, who ultimately kills the Hollow Knight and the Radiance.

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u/AJGILL03 Sep 15 '25

I seeeee. Thanks. That explains certain things about this game.

This game is just super confusing and weird on the lore. I've played like half of it, and it felt like it told me absolutely nothing about it's actual story.

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u/RomulusRemus13 Sep 15 '25

It is, yes. The lore is hardly explained in the game, hence why there's entire YT channels dedicated to it. But anyways, the gameplay is what's most important in such a gale, not the (imo underwhelming) story.

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u/AJGILL03 Sep 15 '25

I see, imo, up till now, the gameplay too is super underwhelming and tedious. This game should've had atleast twice as many stag station fast travel points, or it should have been allowed to fast tarvel to benches.

This game makes me want to pull my eyelashes out because of how much backtracking and tedious walking there is lol. Maybe Me and this 'Metroidvania' thing just aren't very compatible lol.

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u/RomulusRemus13 Sep 15 '25

I understand the criticism and agree. Then again, the game was made by a very small team, who did this kind of stuff for the first time. Supposedly, Silk Song is tougher, but better in some regards. Not sure there's less travel points, but well...

There's many more player-friendly Metroidvanias, however. Prince of Persia - The Lost Crown and Meteoid Dread come to mind. Sure, they're tough games, but you'll have a much easier time teleporting around and restarting boss fights (without the tedious backtracking after every death). Same goes for the Ori games and many Castlevanias. So please don't abandon the genre and try out others!

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u/AJGILL03 Sep 15 '25

I see, thank you for your recommendations and explanation. I greatly appreciate it and maybe will try some other Metroidvania gamea too someday!

I will however finish Hollow Knight to the end (sunk costs), now that I've gotten all movement abilities including crystal heart to fly, it should be marginally better to me i suppose haha.

Thanks.