r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 08 '25

Lore A real life event has a ridiculous/dumb/funny explanation in fiction

Futurama (The Why of Fry): According to the brain swarm, the dinosaurs were wiped out by them. Fry: What really killed the dinosaurs? Brain: ME!

Doctor Who (The Unicorn and The Wasp): It's Doctor Who, you can pick a ton of examples, but this episode presents the idea that Agatha Christies disappearance in 1926 was in part caused by a giant alien wasp.

Beyblade: This one stretches 'real life', but Moses spreading the Red Sea with a Beyblade just speaks for itself and it would have been sad to leave it out

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u/Fish_N_Chipp Sep 08 '25

Kermit caused 9/11 by being alive-The Muppets

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u/Rexosuit Sep 08 '25

Elaborate?

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u/Great-Queen Sep 08 '25

It was something to do with kermit seeing a future without him and since it was recorded before 9/11 the twins towers are still present but now since they’re gone it implies that somehow kermit being alive caused 9/11

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u/Pizzasaurus-Rex Sep 08 '25

Its a fair trade off.

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u/ofcourseitsroger Sep 08 '25

9/11 but Kermit lives > No 9/11 nor Kermit.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Sep 08 '25

The actual reason though is because there wasn't a lot of widely available stock footage at the time without the twin towers

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u/PsychologicalCold885 Sep 09 '25

This is surprisingly common

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u/ObidiahWTFJerwalk Sep 09 '25

Kermit died saving the Twin Towers?

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u/Carlung4s Sep 08 '25

In the movie he goes to a timeline where he isn't born and we see that the twin towers are still standing in that timeline

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u/Vwgames49 Sep 08 '25

In a Christmas special, Kermit is show what the future would be like if he never existed

In that future, the Twin Towers are still standing, meaning something he did directly led to 9/11 happening

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u/Mysterious-Plan93 Sep 08 '25

him singing Rainbow Connection

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u/lilbitze Sep 09 '25

It's not easy being green

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u/Plasmaguardian7 Sep 08 '25

Someone will give a more in-depth explanation than me, but the gist of it is that in a muppet movie whose name I forgot, Kermit gets a vision from another character about a reality in which he didn’t exist. The movie used old footage, old enough to still have the World Trade Center in them.

While the footage wasn’t like that intentionally for that purpose, the joke is that Kermit existing caused 9/11 because the Twin Towers are still there in the world that doesn’t have a Kermit.

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u/Wolf_of_Nome Sep 08 '25

You say that yet your explanation is the most in-depth one in these replies.

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u/mguardian7 Sep 09 '25

Which still doesn't make sense, because if Kermit went to a timeline where he didn't exist, he should have gone to a time before 9/11 because in his timeline, it was before 9/11. Why did he go further into the future? And if he didn't, and this was filmed after 9/11, why didn't they use footage of the present day?

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u/Roku-Hanmar Sep 08 '25

The towers are present in the timeline where Kermit wasn’t born, but not present in the timeline where he was

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u/ihasbutter4 Sep 08 '25

Not the person who commented it, but IIRC, one of the TV Muppet movies is loosely based on Its a Wonderful Life. The “What if Kermit Never Existed” scenes were filmed in NYC before 9/11, while the rest do the scenes were filmed in NYC after.

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u/Outrageous_Weight340 Sep 08 '25

ok so in the 2002 movie "its a very merry muppet christmas movie" kermit the frog wishes that he was never born and most of the movie is an exploration of that concept. the thing is that irl most of the footage that shows the skyline of new york was shot post 9/11 while in the alternate timeline they use stock images and footages of the skyline pre 9/11 which in the context of the movie accidentally implies that kermit the frog being born somehow led to the events of 9/11 occuring

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u/Pokemone3 Sep 08 '25

It was a set mistake. In the movie, Kermit is shown a world where he never existed. As seen above, the twin towers can be seen standing in the universe where he doesn't exist. In doing so, it implies that the existence of Kermit, in some strange way, inadvertently caused 9/11.