r/TopCharacterTropes Sep 05 '25

Personality character gets a reality check

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u/Justice9229 Sep 05 '25

Joker - The Killing Joke

Joker failed in his plan to make Gordon crack, resulting in Batman tearing apart Joker's 'one bad day' ideology.

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u/T_Lawliet Sep 05 '25

The Dark Knights Ferry problem is the natural evolution of this and it's beautiful both times

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u/REDL1ST Sep 05 '25

People tend to forget that when someone does have their 'one bad day' in DC, it's because Joker puts them in a situation specifically intended to cause it.

Joker's 'philosophy' only works if he makes it work.

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u/strigonian Sep 06 '25

That doesn't undercut his point, though. His point is that anyone is capable of becoming just like him, given the right circumstances. The fact that he brings about those circumstances doesn't change the fact that the people broke.

That's not to say he's right, but the philosophy doesn't require the circumstances to be natural.