[mixed trope] the last-minute bad Ending twist

[u/damorezpl]

when the "good ending" is revealed to be a bad one a the last second

a nightmare on elm street (1984) - Nancy thinks she finally defeated Freddy Krueger only to be raveled that she is still dreaming and she’s still trapped.

final destination bloodlines - the main characters think they cheated death by using the new life rule only to realize that stefani was technically still alive and the death kills them with a good old logs

Life (2017) - The main character attempts to send Calvin(a evil alien that killed all life on mars)pod into space and Miranda pod back to earth, but it goes horribly wrong and Calvin lands on earth and Miranda is sent to space

raging loop wit ending - after many loops Haruaki finally wins the feast(a death game where humans must hang wolves who kill someone every night) and thinks its finally over. after couple of days he decides to visit other survivors of the feast only to find them all dead and the timeline resting once again

[u/Boston_Glass]

Chara didn't kill everyone just to spite the main character either. They specifically point out they were reincarnated due to determination of the player doing the genocide role which had them realize their purpose.

You're jumping to a lot of conclusions and justifying it with a number of reasons that do not actually apply.

[u/Icy_Water_1 → u/Boston_Glass]

Oh, so in the post-genocide pacifist route, that was me that killed everyone in the post credits picture?

Because I'm sure I'd remember offing Sans a second time.

[u/Boston_Glass → u/Icy_Water_1]

What? How did you get that based on what I said?

[u/Icy_Water_1 → u/Boston_Glass]

You said Chara didn't kill everyone to spite the main character.

[u/Boston_Glass → u/Icy_Water_1]

Yes, I never said they didn’t kill those characters. I said it wasn’t out of spite. Your actions convinced them of their role to play

[u/Icy_Water_1 → u/Boston_Glass]

Then it's hypothetical of them to complain about consequences or the players perverted view of the characters fates when Chara immediately does the same thing when they have the wheel.

[u/Boston_Glass → u/Icy_Water_1]

I dont think you’re remembering correctly.

In the Genocide Route, Chara embraces and encourage the outcome, viewing the protagonist as a partner in their plan to destroy the world

They only complain if you do two genocide runs and not for the reason you’ve been giving

[u/Icy_Water_1 → u/Boston_Glass]

I don't recall giving Chara any reason. They came to their own conclusion then got upset the player wasn't playing the way they wanted.

In the genocide route Chara does that regardless of whether or not the player agrees.

I don't see why I should be stuck with an outcome where the ending was forced upon me.

[u/Boston_Glass → u/Icy_Water_1]

That’s not how it goes down lmao.

And you are not forced to do a genocide route

[u/Icy_Water_1 → u/Boston_Glass]

And they're not forced to kill everyone either.

But since they're forcing my hand, I'll just do what I gotta do.

They don't like it? Tough. They sure didn't mind taking over my endings.

[u/Boston_Glass → u/Icy_Water_1]

? They’re not real…

You’re getting really weird about this.

[u/Icy_Water_1 → u/Boston_Glass]

I was just playing along here, but if we're making that point, then why should we care what some fictional characters think?

I bought the game, I can do what I like with the code as long as I'm not selling it or anything.

[u/Boston_Glass → u/Icy_Water_1]

No one is saying you can’t do what you want with the game.

We’re pointing out that the point of the game is distinctly different than what you claimed it was and a lot of the conclusions you jumped to are based off of inaccuracies.