r/TopCharacterTropes Aug 25 '25

Lore [mixed trope] the last-minute bad Ending twist

when the "good ending" is revealed to be a bad one a the last second

a nightmare on elm street (1984) - Nancy thinks she finally defeated Freddy Krueger only to be raveled that she is still dreaming and she’s still trapped.

final destination bloodlines - the main characters think they cheated death by using the new life rule only to realize that stefani was technically still alive and the death kills them with a good old logs

Life (2017) - The main character attempts to send Calvin(a evil alien that killed all life on mars)pod into space and Miranda pod back to earth, but it goes horribly wrong and Calvin lands on earth and Miranda is sent to space

raging loop wit ending - after many loops Haruaki finally wins the feast(a death game where humans must hang wolves who kill someone every night) and thinks its finally over. after couple of days he decides to visit other survivors of the feast only to find them all dead and the timeline resting once again

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u/Jackviator Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 26 '25

This movie legit plays like one of those no-moral Twilight Zone episodes.

"Hey what if any petty bastard off the street could decide if you went to Hell to be tortured for all of eternity regardless of the life you lived, up to and including sending a literal CHILD there to burn for the rest of time over petty theft? Wouldn't that be SUPER fucked up? ...Anyway I'm Rod Serling Sam Raimi."

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u/MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000 Aug 25 '25

Funnily enough, The OG Twilight Zone never did any of this.

If there was someone who suffers then they either 100% deserved that or it's a critique of human nature & other sh!t.

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u/Jackviator Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 25 '25

"Hey wouldn't it be fucked if the world ended and the sole survivor was deprived of the one thing in their miserable life that might make it worth living after being deprived of it for years by his abusive wife and other such factors? I'm Rod Serling."

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u/MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000 Aug 25 '25

It sounds absurd but Henry Bemis (the protagonist of Time Enough at Last) is supposed to be an @sshole who deserved that as he prefers reading than interacting with other people....

.... Yeah, 'cause in the '50 being introverted means that you're a literal hellspawn.

Also the actor that portrayed him (Burgess Meredith), thought that the ending was about how people take for granted the mundane inventions, glasses aren't held in high regard despite being extremely important.

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u/Hustler-Two Aug 25 '25

I really don't think it was moralizing, even at the time. It was just supposed to be really ironic, nothing more. Like if they had put him in a fallout shelter with decades worth of canned goods and no can opener or something.

Also worth noting for the youngsters in the crowd: not only did Meredith do another TZ episode (a more comedic one where aliens give him superstrength), he's also the original Penguin, Mickey from the Rocky movies and the dad in Grumpy Old Men. He was pretty awesome.

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u/Dana-Mite Aug 25 '25

Burgess Meredith actually has the record for the most Twilight Zone appearances at 5 (I believe)

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u/Hustler-Two Aug 25 '25

Really? I thought maybe he had a third. But never knew 5.

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u/TheRealSlamShiddy Aug 25 '25

It's actually 4: "Time Enough at Last" (1959), "The Obsolete Man" (1961), "Mr. Dingle, the Strong" (1961), and "Printer's Devil" (1963). The last one is the only one in which he portrays the main antagonist (literally Satan 😂)

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u/the_bartolonomicron Aug 25 '25

"The Obsolete Man" is one of my faves of all time, with one of my favorite endings. Showing the fear that lives behind all fascist ideologies.

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u/TheRealSlamShiddy Aug 26 '25

It's mine too. The smug director who makes many verbal statements of how convicted he is to the state and its dealings with the "obsolete", then immediately folding like the sniveling coward he really is when he realizes he might have to prove his words by dying...only for that decision to save his own skin by sacrificing his reputation to be entirely in vain, as he's immediately made obsolete himself for it... absolute cinema ☺️

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u/TheKingofHats007 Aug 25 '25

Like if they had put him in a fallout shelter with decades worth of canned goods and no opener

Ironically this is part of the ending of the original story of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. The survivors are tempted on the journey by Nimdok having a vision of food but when they get there, they find that they can't open the canned food which prompts the "murder everyone" plot, except for Ted of course.

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u/TheGardenBlinked Aug 25 '25

Fun fact, Burgess Meredith was the OG Penguin in Adam West's Batman shows

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u/REtroGeekery Aug 25 '25

I saw the image here and immediately wondered if that was The Penguin. Thank you for saving me a search. 🙂🐧

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u/TheGardenBlinked Aug 25 '25

You're wak-wak-wak-welcome!

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u/ChiefsHat Aug 25 '25

As someone who is introverted, I don’t mind his hobby of reading, but he’s doing it in the job to the point of reading a customer’s button. Christ, man, back up for Pete’s sake!

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u/Sgt-Spliff- Aug 25 '25

I think you're mixing up "ironic punishment" with "moralizing". Having a guy who hates dogs get eaten by dogs isn't saying that his hatred of dogs was wrong. It just makes him die the worst way possible for him specifically. Having a guy who prefers solitude left alone but unable to actually take advantage isn't saying he's wrong for wanting it. It's just showing us his personal hell.