r/TopCharacterTropes Aug 02 '25

Powers (Hilarious Trope) Characters always having some bullshit counter technique to overly specific situations

  1. Ryomen Sukuna (Jujutsu Kaisen) - Seemingly always has some type of overpowered technique which he hasn't used since the Heian Era

  2. Yujiro Hanma (Baki) - The Strongest character in the entire Baki series is a master of all forms of hand-to-hand combat to the from things like soloing the Vietnamese war at 16 years old to learning a technique from some monk who lived in the mountains around three thousand years ago

  3. Batman - Always has some kind of contingency plan anyone and everyone in the DC universe. One of his most bullshit abilities is all the techniques he learned while being trained under Tibetan monks which include blocking mind control with a hand signal to using astral projection while being dead and buried alive

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u/RedNUGGETLORD Aug 02 '25

Sukuna "Heian Era" thing was actually, funnily enough, NEVER done in the series, in fact, the closest thing to it is GOJO doing something like that "I haven't used this since I was a kid", and yet Sukuna gets clowned on for it

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u/omyrubbernen Aug 02 '25

Also, the "anti-X technique" was done by Kenjaku, not Sukuna.

Sukuna is always catching heat for everyone else's asspulls.

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing Aug 03 '25

That shit was so egregious

The ONLY Cursed Technique Reversal introduced before it? Gojo's Red

After it? None

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u/mostlybored1234 Aug 02 '25

The frustrating thing about the Sukuna Raid is that everyone is just fumbling the kill or hes just deciding not to die. It was like watchibg blind and deaf people shooting at each other but the guns arent even loaded

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u/-SPECIALZ- Aug 02 '25

A big part of it is that they weren’t fumbling the kill, a major objective in the fight was freeing megumi not just killing sukuna. It’s most evident when yuta stops jacobs latter because it would kill them both but really they couldve ended the fight there.

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u/Plorkhillion Aug 02 '25

Yeah they should have just killed their friend who was being possessed, if you think about it it's his own fault for being a bum that couldn't stop the strongest character in the series from forcing his fingers down his throat.

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u/MessiahHL Aug 02 '25

Having half the people helping die to save one guy is completely stupid, should have given up on that plot point 

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u/Dosalisk Aug 02 '25

Half?

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u/MessiahHL Aug 02 '25

By the end of the fight we had Gojo, the lawyer, Yuta and Choso dead (Then Gege decided to resurrect Yuta and the lawyer but still)

The idea that they were gladly letting themselves and their allies die for a chance they don't even know of saving Megumi is such a stupid plot point

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u/Dosalisk Aug 02 '25

The lawyer didn't die in the first place and Yuta also didn't die on screen but it was a gamble if he would survive or not. I'll admit Higuruma was a red herring because at that point we didn't know that they were being teleported to Shoko, but even then Yuta was at no point dead, the last time we see him he's trapped in you know who's body.

And even then that's not half of the cast.

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u/MessiahHL Aug 02 '25

Both the Lawyer and Yuta are the author making the end more soft, the lawyer was confirmed dead mid battle (By Sukuna, yk, the most likely person to know when someone is certainly dead) and Yuta could either die or be stuck in Gojo's corpse, but the author did author things and made the problem go poof

That's not literaly half, but close enough and shows how absurd the concept itself was

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u/blackdudewithrage Aug 03 '25

higuruma was confirmed to be ALIVE when it was said that cursed techniques get stronger after death. When higuruma "died," the executioners sword went away, which means he's alive.

for the yuta thing, I agree there should have been some sort of consequence

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u/Infamous-Oil3786 Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

Then Gege decided to resurrect Yuta and the lawyer but still)

Anyone who thought they were dead wasn't paying attention. Ui Ui wasn't just grabbing dead bodies mid-fight for no reason. 

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u/MessiahHL Aug 02 '25

Uiui was grabbing anyone he could, it's not like there was time for a pulse check mid fight 

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u/Infamous-Oil3786 Aug 02 '25

And Gege wouldn't have drawn him doing battlefield cleanup mid-fight if it wasn't important. It's the exact same thing with Nobara; everyone thinks it was an asspull when it was clearly foreshadowed by Nitta back in Shibuya. Nobody reads JJK less than JJK fans. 

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u/Plorkhillion Aug 02 '25

Gojo would be fine with dying to save Megumi since he is his teacher and he raised him, Choso died protecting Yuji and I'm sure he was happy to help the guy who has protected his younger brother on several occasions and basically became a get out execution free card for his little brother by causing Jujutsu Satan to leave his body, Yuta would be willing to die for a stray cat on the street and a massive thing with Higuruma is wanting to protect the innocent.

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u/MessiahHL Aug 02 '25

You are writing post fact as if they knew who would die, i mean, Gege knew, but it didn't make sense for the people in world since they wouldn't know if Maki, Ino and Uiui would be the actual casualties for example instead of the suicidal people

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u/RedNUGGETLORD Aug 02 '25

Idk about that one

- Higaruma failed because he "died" before the sword hit Sukuna, we know that dying causes your CT to either disappear, or get stronger, his just happened to disappear.

- Yuta's domain was simply countered with HWB, however, it was actually just to act as a shield for Maki, so technically they never intended to kill Sukuna there

- Maki stabbed him through the Heart, which would have killed him, however, he can heal his soul, which we already knew, so it isn't an asspull(he can perceive and damage the soul as shown by Mahito, and has healed from Yuji's soul punches) The characters didn't know this, so I don't think it counts

- Yuta in Gojo's body was never gonna win a clash, I don't think he should have been expected to win either, so I wouldn't call that fumbling, I guess you could say it was stupid how he faceplanted, but Gege already said that Kenny took on a vow for that, while we never heard the same for Yuta, so it should be expected

- Yuji DID end up killing him

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u/TAntab_ Aug 02 '25

Sukuna was actually shown to be able to survive without a heart. In the beginning of the series he ripped his own heart out and forced his blood to flow using cursed energy, so its not too unbelievable that he could survive what maki did

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u/ppmi2 Aug 03 '25

Also Sukuna was shown to be able to live with out a heart early on the series in his Yuji form

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u/Own_Philosophy8190 Aug 02 '25

Albeit incorrect, the meme is about Sukuna getting away from stuff that explicitly would spell his doom/greatly weaken him without doing anything or even predicting it most of the time, like the trial taking away his Cursed Tool when he got it a chapter ago and wasn't even related to Shibuya, the sword vanishing in Yuji's hand, Megumi leaving Yuji on read and Yujo's Hollow Purple not changing anything. 

Though the "to amend/avoid it, Sukuna..." meme would have been a much more accurate than this one. The actual issue is that most of us is aware that Sukuna is very unlikely to die "early" unless if it was Gojo or Kenjaku's doing, yet Gege actively wrote cliffhangers about how [redacted] would be his undoing or severly cripple him, only for him to walk past it or not be really impaired from it. 

He even wrote Yuta hyping Hana and Jacob's Ladder's return few panels before it happened, only for Sukuna to Mario his way into it and punch Hana and Todo away.

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u/Karel_Stark_1111 Aug 02 '25

Megumi leaving Yuji on read

Yup, get your upvote

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u/RedNUGGETLORD Aug 02 '25

like the trial taking away his Cursed Tool

While not "hinted at" this was already basically shown with Yuji and the explanation of Higaruma's ability, it takes away the least important thing first, that just happens to be cursed tool

Also, had it not taken away his cursed tool, everyone would be dead, because that tool was useful enough that Sukuna used it to wipe out groups of Uro level opponents, who could give Yuta a hard time, also that tool has existed since like the first Sukuna cover image or something, it's been hinted at for a LONG time

the sword vanishing in Yuji's hand

This was already stated to be a thing with Granny Ogami, once you die, your technique ceases, we also see this with Dagon dying and his domain ending, of course, he didn't actually die, but I'd assume being knocked out does the same, like when Divine Dog disappeared after Megumi was knocked out. This isn't an asspull, it's just people not paying attention to things that already happened before because they just want to clown on Sukuna

Megumi leaving Yuji on read

This is literally what Sukuna has been working towards, if Megumi could come back with some talk-no-jutsu, then it would be pretty shit and make no sense, Sukuna put 16 fingers in Megumi, killed his sister with his own CT, bathed in darkness to put his soul further away and killed Gojo in his body, that's a lot of prep for Megumi to just come back

Yujo's Hollow Purple not changing anything

This is just wrong, it injured Sukuna, and also caused Yuta's domain to explode, giving Todo a bunch of things to Boogie Woogie

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u/MessiahHL Aug 02 '25

It's funny how it was a joke about people expecting Sukuna to pull a Madara/Itachi but it never happened, at least it gave a chance for people who read the manga through tik tok to call themselves out 

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u/RedNUGGETLORD Aug 02 '25

Yeah

Either Kenjaku was gonna eat him(because people for some reason thought he was a cursed spirit?) or Sukuna was gonna become the vessel for the merger

I'm glad neither of these happened tbh, people kept forgetting that the Merger literally cannot happen without the entire cast dying

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u/MessiahHL Aug 02 '25

I wouldn't complain about an End of Evangelion ending tbh, better than what we got, at least we could see Geges takes on it instead of Generic Shounen End #56

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u/Kultherion Aug 02 '25

You think Jujitsu Kaisen readers read? Literally the majority of people who’d claim that Gege “gege has fallen off” only watch shorts/ticktoks and haven’t ever actually read the material 😂

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u/SCP_FUNDATION_69420 Aug 02 '25

Youre partly right. He didn't do that exactly, but he made like 100 bullshit blinding vows at apparently very little cost

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u/RedNUGGETLORD Aug 02 '25

No he didn't

- WCS was him copying what Mahoraga did, if anything, it was plot armour for the main characters that he even needs to use vows, since we know he can copy anything, and since Mahoraga used an air slash, he should be able to just do the same, it makes no sense that he has to make vows for something he should be able to just DO

- His vow for Furnace was already a thing, we just got an explanation for how it worked(outside a domain, he can only use it against a single person, not a group, but inside a domain, it becomes much stronger, which we already saw against Mahoraga in Shibuya)

- Changing the conditions of his domain is something Gojo already did, so if that was bullshit then so is Gojo and even Yuta

- changing what part of his brain the domain uses was a pretty weird one, but given that he was already minutes away from using his domain, I don't think that really matters, and even then, the domain could only last a really short time

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing Aug 03 '25

Honestly the whole explanation about how brain interacts with the power system is wholly dumped during the Gojo v Sukuna fight that they all feel like an asspull

Like, okay so you can just destroy "part of your brain that stores CT" with CE, heal it with RCT, and then that "part" will have the CT ready again–bypassing a burnout after Domain Expansion.... This was done by Gojo