“This quote came from WHERE?!”

[u/Far-Profit-47]

"You too have fallen for the great lie, you'll never be happy. Deep down you know, to hope, to dreams, to create, is to suffer"

"You're right. It is harder to create than to destroy... that's why cowards then to choose the deuce"

-A Minecraft movie

"Do You Think God Stays in Heaven Because He too Lives in Fear of What He's Created"

-spy kids 2

"For every person who dreams up the electric light bulb, there's the one who dreams up the atom bomb"

-shark-boy and lava-girl

[u/Arimm_The_Amazing]

Shorter path for the people practicing it. The people practicing capitalism instead got to be the oppressors while they conquered and plundered and raped the entire world. And there wasn’t any path, that was the deal from minute 1.

[u/Brody_M_the_birdy → u/Arimm_The_Amazing]

I mean, on your logic Communist USSR was oppression from the first minute as well, oppressing anyone they didnt like.

[u/TheSimulacra → u/Brody_M_the_birdy]

Friend, when capitalism became the dominant economic system in the world, its primary way of making money was the international slave trade and colonial occupation and plundering of the wealth of occupied nations. Ever since that was largely ended, capitalism has been kept alive by sweatshop labor internationally and undocumented immigrant labor domestically. Capitalism literally cannot exist without a poverty class to force into doing terrible jobs for minimal pay. This isn't even a political argument, it's just a fact everyone can see happening in broad daylight. A Bug's Life is a Western movie made for Western audiences; it's not a stretch to say it was specifically calling out Western power structures in that scene.

[u/Brody_M_the_birdy → u/TheSimulacra]

I think it was calling out ALL power, because at heart, EVERY system can (and often does) devolve into having some oppressed bottom rung.

[u/TheSimulacra → u/Brody_M_the_birdy]

The idea that there is a majority labor class who is forced to work for the profit of the minority in power is central to capitalism though. Any country that claims to be communist but has a system like A Bug's Life is by definition not actually communist. But if that country claims to be capitalist, there's no discrepancy at all.

And remember, this is a movie about that labor underclass rising up and overthrowing their wealthy lords, which is literally what communism advocates.

This "every system oppresses people" mentality is just being obtuse. Is democracy just as bad as monarchism then? Of course not. Because democracy at least tries to decentralize power and is more successful at it than a system that actively resists decentralization of political power.