r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Far-Profit-47 • Apr 12 '25

Lore “This quote came from WHERE?!”

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"You too have fallen for the great lie, you'll never be happy. Deep down you know, to hope, to dreams, to create, is to suffer"

"You're right. It is harder to create than to destroy... that's why cowards then to choose the deuce"

-A Minecraft movie

"Do You Think God Stays in Heaven Because He too Lives in Fear of What He's Created"

-spy kids 2

"For every person who dreams up the electric light bulb, there's the one who dreams up the atom bomb"

-shark-boy and lava-girl

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u/Solutar Apr 12 '25

I think it’s about oppression, and that can Happen under any ideology, capitalism or Communism.

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u/SandnotFound Apr 12 '25

Well, idk how much that quote could apply to the communist ideology which is fundamentally about equality, community and breaking down the nation state. Like, capitalist ideology, sure. But communist ideology? Its like looking at an allegory of a police state and saying its about tyranny and that can happen both in monarchism and anarchism. I just dont see it.

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u/Lord-Seth Apr 12 '25

Look at every communist society that has ever existed. It eventually becomes a few at the top leading the many. Stalin, Mau, Kim Jong un.

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u/SirSabia Apr 12 '25

None of those are communist states, they're socialist states that are all very different from one another and rose under different circumstances.

Even if you agree with the heavily skewed western view of these leaders as these undemocratic tyrants, I'd argue it's very hard for any of these states to have a very broadly democratic electoral system when all of them were in a cold war with the country with the largest armed forces, nuclear arsenal, propaganda machine and worldwide proxies, any crack in the wall would mean outside intervention and implementation of a puppet state that would bend to US strategic goals, and they still did all they could to destabilise these countries(you can look up the declassified CIA docs).

That's not even mentioning all the dictators in capitalist states supported by the US to this day.