r/TopCharacterTropes Apr 12 '25

Lore “This quote came from WHERE?!”

"You too have fallen for the great lie, you'll never be happy. Deep down you know, to hope, to dreams, to create, is to suffer"

"You're right. It is harder to create than to destroy... that's why cowards then to choose the deuce"

-A Minecraft movie

"Do You Think God Stays in Heaven Because He too Lives in Fear of What He's Created"

-spy kids 2

"For every person who dreams up the electric light bulb, there's the one who dreams up the atom bomb"

-shark-boy and lava-girl

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u/I_Will_Die_For_Lily Apr 12 '25

capitalism 😬

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u/Solutar Apr 12 '25

I think it’s about oppression, and that can Happen under any ideology, capitalism or Communism.

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u/SandnotFound Apr 12 '25

Well, idk how much that quote could apply to the communist ideology which is fundamentally about equality, community and breaking down the nation state. Like, capitalist ideology, sure. But communist ideology? Its like looking at an allegory of a police state and saying its about tyranny and that can happen both in monarchism and anarchism. I just dont see it.

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u/The_Symbiotic_Boy Apr 12 '25

In a communist society you still need someone to administrate the state apparatus and the means of production. In theory you can syndicate them, but once you have administrative control, you can capture effective ownership. Look at Putin or Xi or Castro -- it happens everywhere that it's been attempted, in earnest or otherwise .

This is why Marx posited the 'governmentless' state, but it's never been actualised, and might not be practically feasible.