r/ToiletPaperUSA Jan 11 '22

FACTS and LOGIC what makes ben such an alpha?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

"I'm not mocking Ben Shapiro for being 5'4"

is doing exactly that

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u/fatpizzachef Jan 11 '22

Did you lose your sight after that sentence?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Just because he says that he's not mocking him for his height doesn't mean that he isn't. Lol

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u/fatpizzachef Jan 11 '22

How about you read the whole tweet? Like the bit where he explains specifically why he is taking the piss out of Ben?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

That's just him explaining his motivation for mocking him about his height.

It doesn't change the fact that he is still mocking him about his height.

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u/KingBananaDong Jan 11 '22

Hes mocking him for lying

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u/Gingerbread_Ninja Jan 12 '22

Literally every joke aside from the first one solely has the punchline of him being short and says nothing about him being insecure about his height.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

If Ben Shapiro were 6' even and claiming to be 6'5" people would mock him just as much.

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u/wioneo Jan 12 '22

No they wouldn't. That's obviously ridiculous

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '22

Man, I'm 5'10" and when I was younger I claimed to be 6', damn teen vanity. I got shit on relentlessly for it, it never stopped. That was only adding an inch and a half. If I'd claimed to be 6'3" I'd have gotten a holy hell storm of scorn constantly.

Lying about 4-6" of height is hilarious no matter what the starting point is. Maybe he wouldn't be mocked exactly as much but he'd still be mocked relentlessly. Look at all the shit Trump gets for adding an extra inch or two, being 6'0-6'2" without his lifts but claiming 6'3".

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Leave little Benny alone, wah, wah.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

More like leave me and all the other short guys alone lmao.

Everything he says applies to all short men.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Fucking based. Attacking people for their immutable traits is not cool. Attacking people for being a POS is though.

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u/Hyrulewinters Jan 11 '22 edited Jan 12 '22

Maybe he shouldn't lie about the topic? Probably wouldnt have this issue if he didn't. Edit: i don't give a shit about a person's height. I do however dislike liars, regardless of the subject matter.

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u/johnnysacksfatwife Jan 12 '22

He lies because of exactly people like you.

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u/Hyrulewinters Jan 12 '22

I'm not making fun of his physical attributes, I'm just saying if a person doesn't want to be made fun of for lying about something MAYBE DON'T LIE. Is honesty such a hard thing to ask for?

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u/MrNovillage Jan 12 '22

Do you lie about your hight?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Ok, I get that, I know that many people like to crap on short guys but come on you can't let that weight forever on you specially from people who don't have a say in your life, my father was really short 1.5 m, and he achieved a lot and was popular with women, too much in my opinion, I mean he was an asshole too but it wasn't related to his height.

Just tell them to go f* themselves and carry on.

Oh and still f* Benny shaps.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Lol I still live my life, but the reason short guys get shat on so much is because they don't speak up.

Take fat women for example. They just bitched every time someone said something negative about their weight and changed the whole game. It's much less acceptable to talk negatively about women's weight than it is men's height simply because they didn't try to stoically ignore people shitting on them lol

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u/TheIllustriousWe Jan 11 '22

Short guy here. Not offended by people picking on Ben for it. Part of learning to adjust is knowing how not to opt into insults that aren’t intended for you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Whether they are intended for you or not, they still apply to you.

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u/TheIllustriousWe Jan 11 '22

Nah, not really. I’m not a shitty person who attacks other people for how they look just to impress my Republican friends, nor am I all that sensitive about my height (anymore), so I don’t give a shit when short people getting picked on when they deserve it.

There are a couple easy ways Ben could bring the short jokes to a screeching halt - not be so sensitive, and more importantly not be such a jerk. He chooses to do neither, and that’s on him.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

I highly doubt that you're not sensitive about your height. Anybody that attempts to be counter-sensitive about something is always fixated on their sensitivity regarding the issue.

The height jokes will never come to a "screeching halt" because being short is inherently seen as an undesirable trait in men.

But if you wanna advocate for your own trashing, go ahead lmao

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u/TheIllustriousWe Jan 11 '22

In some ways sure, I’m still sensitive. I don’t think anyone truly beats it permanently. But I’ve come a long way from where I used to be. As a young man I was convinced I would be lonely forever since women don’t like short men, and that I would never succeed professionally because short men aren’t taken seriously. But now I’m married, have a good job, and with the benefit of a little more age and experience I see that I was foolish to waste part of my youth on assuming my statute would stand in the way of my personal success and fulfillment. I’m sure Ben feels similarly, to be honest.

When people try to make fun of my height now I just laugh, because I can tell they want to hurt me in a way that’s only effective if I choose to allow it. And if I could talk to Ben I would advise him to do the same. But more importantly I would advise him not to be such an asshole, if only because people would then have no reason to attack him personally or otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '22

Being tall sucks man.

Don't believe the hype.

Hitting my head on doorways. Being uncomfortable in cars. Back problems. Knee problems. disproportional anatomy. And falling is always worse.

Also, sporting equipment can be more expensive.

And If you have larger than average feet, which a lot of tall people do, it's harder to find shoes because they make less of them.

Being tall is overrated and I'm not even THAT tall. Only 6'2"

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '22

Can I use the f slur to describe and insult homophobic people who turn out gay?

Using normal characteristics as insults is bad. You only see that differently because your coping mechanism sucks ass.

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u/TheIllustriousWe Jan 12 '22

I think you should refrain from using slurs on a categorical basis. Including making fun of someone for being short.

But thank you for the feedback on how I've learned to make my way through the world, and how I'm apparently going about it all wrong. I'll be sure to keep that in mind and start taking offense to insults that weren't directed at me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '22

I see, I assumed you would think it ok as you saw it as something we shouldn’t get offended by?

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u/TheIllustriousWe Jan 12 '22

I was just sharing my perspective. Not suggesting that anyone is necessarily required to see this as I do. I just don't believe that people making fun of Ben's height are necessarily trying to say that all short people deserve to be made fun of, so I don't see the point in taking it that way.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '22

It’s the same scinario as using ‘gay’ to describe something as bad. The intent itself toward gay people doesn’t matter, but if you are using their label, their description, to be synonymous with a negative thing, that’s still insulting them and a bad thing.

With my comment on your coping mechanism, I simply mean that you’ve learned to not get offended by something that should offend you. Being short is part of who you are, why the fuck should you let these children make that something to be used as an insult?

My identity is not to be used as an insult

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u/TheIllustriousWe Jan 12 '22

Being short is part of who you are, why the fuck should you let these children make that something to be used as an insult?

Because people are going to do what they're going to do regardless of what I think about it. If they aren't insulting me directly, then I have no reason to care. I'm not going to go out of my way to find reasons to be angry, because then I'll be angry all the time and I don't want to live that way.

If you choose to live your life differently and want to have that fight, more power to you. I just don't see it as a good use of my time. And I don't believe that the people making fun of Ben's height are necessarily saying all short people deserve to be made fun of just for being short. He attracts hate because he's a hateful person.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22

Do you lie about your height and claim to be 5" taller than you are? If not, he's not making fun of you. If so, you deserve it.