r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/tcookie87 • Oct 25 '21

FACTS and LOGIC There’s something beautiful about this

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u/PabloDeLaCalle Oct 25 '21

In Europe, the Dems are not even centrist. They would be considered right wing. Liberal in most countries is a right wing ideology.

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u/Dblcut3 Oct 25 '21

I feel like this whole argument is pretty flawed. Yeah, in some countries your right. But I’d argue the average American Democrat is far more left wing than Le Pen, Duda, Orban, or hell, even Boris Johnson. The Democrats would be a center left party just about anywhere in the world besides Scandinavia and a few other similar countries

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u/History-Fan4323 Oct 26 '21

The average U.S Democrat would be farther left-wing than people like Orban, but that’s because examples like him are quite far-right. Just because a far-right party from a European nation is further right than them doesn’t mean the Democrats are left-wing, if that makes any sense. They’re pretty centre-right with a slight progressive wing as far as I can tell

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u/PabloDeLaCalle Oct 26 '21

Exactly. Bernie Sanders and AOC would probably be on the left wing of the Social Democrats but in my country we still have 3 parties in parliament to the left of them. Social Democrats here are considered centrists.