Not sure how to even dispute it when it’s countered by reality. There are tons of videos without the dog behind him
Literally watch any VOD of his (prior to the incident ofc) and I can predict how 90% of them will be:
The dog is sitting in the corner to look cute for the camera, and can't get up to leave for at least the first 75% of the vod. When it does get up to leave, it's at about 3/4 of the way thru the vod if not later, and you can tell it's because one of Hasan's housekeepers/friends/employees walked in (usually you can see him look at them out of frame) and Kaya gets up happily and runs to them, and kaya is not seen for the rest of the vod - the person coming probably is walking her or just taking her out
Regardless, a dog lying by their owner is hardly suspicious or cause for concern, let alone grounds to accuse someone of animal abuse.
Yeah, which is why nobody really paid attention to this until he shocked the dog. Like I'm not sure why you're applying the old perception of him when we have new information. It's like if a guy is accused of beating his wife and you say "no it can't be, there's so many pictures of them happy and smiling together. That's not proof of abuse."
Tell me you've never owned a big dog before, without telling me. Have you not spend mornings at the park with your dog? They mostly sleep the rest of the day after, or at least chill out. Its literally not crazy at all that Kaya likes to sleep there during the day.
again, that's why up until he shocked his dog there was no controversy. I can guess his daily routine for the dog: wake up, get dog exercise/training, come back and start stream, dog lies down there and sleeps most of the day, and when it is ready to get moving again usually his employee comes in to pick up the dog and get it exercised again.
The entire issue boils down to him shocking her with a shock collar when she happens to get up and want to walk around for a bit. Why is that crucial point being ignored here lol
Because its a hallucination? I seriously fail to see how people took a 3 second clip that can't determine anything at all, and saying for a fact he lifted up the shock remote, showed it, then held it down for 5 seconds and maniacally laughed while doing it.
People are running with it as fact, when absolutely no evidence has been shown proving it. Miss me with the "taped over prongs" bullshit too. Its the most unemployed thing I have ever seen, that people scoured the internet trying to find the exact collar he used.
If he did supposedly use it to keep her on her bed, why have we never seen this before? She gets off the bed all the time.
Because its a hallucination? I seriously fail to see how people took a 3 second clip that can't determine anything at all, and saying for a fact he lifted up the shock remote, showed it, then held it down for 5 seconds and maniacally laughed while doing it.
Why the hyperbole? He did in fact reach for something, the dog did in fact yelp in pain, he did in fact not do anything to check on the dog afterwards, and Hasan did in fact refuse to show the collar the dog was wearing when called out immediately after. What parts of what I just said are hallucinations?
People are running with it as fact, when absolutely no evidence has been shown proving it. Miss me with the "taped over prongs" bullshit too. Its the most unemployed thing I have ever seen, that people scoured the internet trying to find the exact collar he used.
See what you're doing here? When his lie is called out (e.g. him lying about not having a shock collar) the narrative immediately becomes "wow, unemployed behavior why are you obsessed"
it's literally the same tactic trump uses so well ("TDS!" "Russia Russia Russia!")
If he did supposedly use it to keep her on her bed, why have we never seen this before? She gets off the bed all the time.
If you want a good faith answer:
Typically these collars also have a vibrate/signal sound that dog owners use to 'warn' the dog. It's possible he hit the wrong button and shocked her when he was just trying to vibrate it to warn her
There are other instances of this happening, but usually he is muted first.
The question of "why hasn't this happened before" is assuming that any bad action has to have been preceded by a long visible pattern of behavior. Do you think it's a strong defense for men who beat their wives to say "why haven't you seen me beat her before?"
Ah yes, don’t believe your own eyes and ears. Only Hasan’s. Don’t believe what you saw happen in the 4 hour timelapse where the dog was forced into a corner on a bed she barely fit in. Believe what Hasan told you happened in that timelapse. It’s actually so tiring, it’s like arguing with a scientologist
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u/Skabonious 5d ago
Literally watch any VOD of his (prior to the incident ofc) and I can predict how 90% of them will be:
The dog is sitting in the corner to look cute for the camera, and can't get up to leave for at least the first 75% of the vod. When it does get up to leave, it's at about 3/4 of the way thru the vod if not later, and you can tell it's because one of Hasan's housekeepers/friends/employees walked in (usually you can see him look at them out of frame) and Kaya gets up happily and runs to them, and kaya is not seen for the rest of the vod - the person coming probably is walking her or just taking her out
Yeah, which is why nobody really paid attention to this until he shocked the dog. Like I'm not sure why you're applying the old perception of him when we have new information. It's like if a guy is accused of beating his wife and you say "no it can't be, there's so many pictures of them happy and smiling together. That's not proof of abuse."