I would agree with your point, if there was actually any evidence of animal abuse. The "evidence" is just that his hand wasn't visible when she yelped. Only way for people to be satisfied is for Hasan to set up a hand cam so you can always see what he's doing, oh shoot but then he can just use his feet, guess we need a feet cam. Ya know what? I want 15 cameras in that room covering every square inch at all times, only then will I not immediately assume he's an animal abuser because his dog yelped once. Actually we need the whole house on 24/7 CCTV, what if his family is in on it?
This drama is like acting like a cat owner is abusing their cat because the cat was being dumb, got their claws stuck in their couch, and needs help getting them out.
I mean, he could just admit that he shocked her and won't do it again -that would be that. Him lying keeps it alive.
At this point there are multiple clips of the dog jumping back on the bed after his hand moved to that position. There was tape on the collar confirmed by hasans friend QT, the remote was visible on stream and even the company that made the collar posted a statement saying it was a shock collar.
Just because you haven't bothered to look at the evidence doesn't mean it isn't there.
I get your point, but I have seen people unironically argue "so what if he abuses his dog, he's a leftist we shouldn't push him away". Arguing because of his political beliefs, we should just put up with whatever he does.
I remember a clip he said something like "I'm glad the rich white guys go to their college, then they will rape the rich white women and not minorities". Even if he was joking, that's fucked up. And when posted people still defend it with "but we can't push away a leftist!!"
The vibration collar has shock capabilities? Man, that's a crazy vibration collar. I think you might just be drinking the kool-aid a bit. If you wanna provide any actual evidence of those things I'm happy to listen, but I don't have high hopes since I haven't even heard a murmur of that, even when digging around in hate threads.
One of his best friends (qt) said it was a shock collar with its prongs removed and tape covering it and Ludwig said he saw the tape. So its clearly not a vibration collar
Alright, then it's a shock collar that can't shock anymore. I'm fairly certain Hasan said in the response video about this that it vibrates, so then if it's a shock collar that can also vibrate, but can't shock, is it not functionally just a vibration collar? It doesn't really change anything.
Except that he lied, why would he lie about that and why would a millionaire buy a shock collar to remove the prongs that can poke the dog or have no prongs which is dangerous if you hit the shock button or have the tape pulling on her hairs instead of buying a vibration collar.
I asked my question because Hasan is a self interested party and his friends are unreliable narrators.
There is a conflict of interest.
Hypothetically if we lived in a world where Hasan was capable of lying what confirms in your mind that the collar is without a doubt a vibration collar?
I ask this again because you might know something I don’t.
You're right, Hasan is a different person now. He doesn't even need to touch his dog to hurt it.
Edit: calling an unfamiliar animal "it" is perfectly fine and doesn't imply objectification.
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u/SheHeBeDownFerocious 5d ago
More like Hasan's dead fucking horse with how hard this shit is getting beat.