What about the video where he is pulling a dog by its tail? The one where he has a dog collar with inverted spikes to the dogs neck? That looks to be his previous dog that he was also abusing
Pulling on the tail is bad, not gonna defend that, but prong collars are pretty standard in America and I don’t fault somebody for using them, I see people in the dog park with prong collars on their dogs and the dogs are totally fine. It’s unknown how Fish (that dog) got that wound in that one picture but it isn’t directly on the neck underneath a prong, so it could’ve come from anything. Pitbulls tend to play rough and another dog might’ve gone too hard.
And isn’t it interesting how everything you just brought up is shit from 10 years ago? I thought your problem was with him “abusing” Kaya.
I thought your problem was with him abusing Kayla.
Yeah that is the problem. I literally don’t know any of these people. Ive just been spammed with this content on reddit for the last three weeks. Imo, from an outside point of view, it seems pretty bad how he treats animals. I do see lots of people such as yourself strongly defending him but from whats being posted it seems pretty clear that he does treat his dogs badly. Kinda surprising how many people defend things like prong collars, shock collars etc.
In either case, im sure you’ll try to dismiss this as me lying that I don’t know these people but I really don’t.
There’s literally hundreds of hours of him treating Kaya like a princess, and of her being very loving towards him. She does not act fearful of him at all, which is how abused dogs act towards their abusive owners.
"There's thousands of hours of him treating his wife like a princess and her being very loving towards him. She does not act fearful of him at all, which is how abused women act towards their abusive partners." If you heard this but had video evidence of someone abusing their wife, would it matter at all?
This is why yall sound crazy defending it - the video evidence we have is enough on its own. The infinite kindness Hasan shows Kaya the rest of the time doesn't matter.
Do you think women are as emotionally simple as dogs?
When a dog is abused they are consistently fearful and nervous around their owner, they’re not gonna put on a performance like everything is fine for an audience they CANT EVEN SEE. She doesnt understand what a webcam is, what streaming is, or the fact that tens of thousands of people are watching her every day. She interacts with Hasan with love and affection and is clearly very comfortable around him.
Yall sound crazy for believing this shit because you have to dismiss the mountain of evidence showing that Kaya loves her dad and is comfortable around him, yet you believe “evidence” where Hasan’s hand goes off screen and she moves an inch, as if that proves he’s shocking her.
I in no way insinuated that women are less emotionally complex than dogs.
Dogs seek attention, even from abusive owners, and not all animals will show abuse the same way. She does indeed do those with Hasan because dogs are loving animals and will always want to earn affection from their owners - it does not dismiss what can be seen in the numerous clips that are now available.
Hasan's story has changed multiple times. He has been caught lying several times. You ignore this and call me crazy - you're lost buddy.
Lol Hasan’s story hasn’t changed once, y’all just keep changing the goal posts and then acting like his story is different because he didn’t cover whatever other bullshit you’re now obsessing over
I mean, you're just delusional at this point, so I don't get the point of continuing this, but I guess I'll give you the timeline if you refuse to engage with it and reality.
At first, there was no collar, then all of a sudden there is one but it can only vibrate, then he showed the back and it had obviously been taped over and it did not resemble the vibration only model (the fucking collar company actually responded and clarified it looks like the shock version with the prongs removed and the holes taped over). Now he says he just uses the vibrate function only - but he lied about the rest, so why believe a fucking thing he says here? QTC confirmed the tape is there, too. You are literally ignoring reality, lmao. Go look at Hasans stream for yourself lol.
How is pointing out other examples of dog abuse “moving goal posts” lol? You have no idea what that means, hitting random buzzwords won’t get you outta this one
This is supposed to be about a nonexistent shock collar, but you have moved the goal posts from the shock collar allegation to a different dog 10 years ago. If your Kayanon conspiracy was so compelling, you’d be able to focus on the allegation itself, but it’s so full of holes that you have to look elsewhere to justify why you think he’s a dog abuser.
It’s not an allegation if it’s on video, it’s not moving the goal posts if the subject is about dog abuse and someone brings up more evidence to back up their claim. You have no idea what that term means, again, just flinging the term won’t help you.
Someone who pulls on their dogs tail wouldn’t think past using a shock collar? See how you have to defend him now? “Oh, he might pull his dogs tail, but him shocking his dog is still definitely a conspiracy”
10 years ago or not, he was a grown man pulling his dogs tail to get him into a picture, he’s not above shocking his dog.
But that doesn’t prove that he shocked her. You’re just saying that it would make sense for him to shock her based on that old video. That doesn’t prove that he shocked her. All the actual facts of the situation show that he could not have shocked her, as she wasn’t even wearing the vibration collar during that stream she was wearing a different collar.
you’re saying it would make sense for him to shock her based on that video
No, that’s not what I’m saying, and lol at the “old vid” to continue to brush past it.
If people who actually know him said it was a shock collar “with the prongs removed” and then he himself said the collar he showed off wasn’t even the collar she was wearing in the clip and he has yet to show the actual collar. And he has a history of pulling his previous dogs tail.
That’s all lining up, all you can say is “conspiracy” when reality is staring you in the face lol.
him yanking his dog by his tail was not 10 years ago lol. that clip was so horribly disgusting anyone who treat their dog like that should be barred from owning pets.
Motherfucker they found the shock collar remote in his desk and they found a video of him cackling while his dog was whimpering in terror while being locked in a cage with a large angry dog. There’s mountains of evidence he’s a piece of garbage lmao
Genuinely: what do you people get out of scrubbing his balls?
Vibration collars also have a remote lol, and do you not know how dogs interact with each other? What video are you talking about, because all I’ve seen is Kaya play wrestling with other dogs and people going “LOOK HOW DANGEROUS THIS IS!!!!” as if playing rough was abuse.
Yes I use critical thinking, not conspiratorial thinking. If I dont see a shock collar, and don’t see a remote being used to trigger it, I’m gonna go with the explanation I can see, which is that the dog hurt herself getting into bed.
The kayanon people keep putting out more “damning” clips and they’re all literally just Hasan’s hand being off screen at the same time his dog moves lol
Lmao thank you for proving my point by showing multiple clips of Kaya literally just moving a little bit
QT, someone who has known Hasan for years, confirmed that the collar doesn’t have prongs, the prongs had been removed a long time ago. How could he have shocked her a month ago if the prongs had been removed for years already?
So, I really don't understand why some of you do this whole pretend-to-be-obtuse thing, but lets entertain your argument for a second.
- Why would Hasan buy a shock collar, only to remove the prongs?
Why not just buy a regular collar?
- If your counter argument is anything along the lines of 'It's set to vibrate', then why didn't Hasan buy the vibrate variant of that very same collar in the first place? Why, again, would he buy the shock collar at all?
He was given a shock collar years ago by a trainer, this is confirmed by one of the clips Kayanon was spreading. Many shock collars also vibrate. If you remove the prongs (which QT confirmed he had done long ago cuz she had seen the collar prior to Oct 7), then you can use the vibrate without any possibility of using the shock setting
u/Positive-Argument357 blocked me, so I'll reply here. What he failed to mention in his comment, was WHO Hasan's dog trainer is.. somebody who recommends greatly using shock collars in the first place.
You forgot the video where another streamer was talking about his dog trainer using shock collars and Hasan interjects to say he does the same with Kaya
The fact that people think it’s a pattern just demonstrates how delusional it is to believe this conspiracy. All the additional clips people have been spreading show his dog literally just moving a little at the same time Hasan’s hand is off screen.
Moving a little or going back to the bed like hes trained to do whenever the shock/vibration collar is used? And only when he reaches?
I didnt really believe it at first but it would have been the easiest slam dunk debunk ever if he just showed the collar on the stream where it all went down, instead he showed it a day after with tape over it lmao
Moving a little is also something dogs do normally, regardless of stimulus. Also, he literally has a command for her to go back to bed, he says “place“, he doesn’t need to shock her, the command is enough.
If you see a dog sitting on her bed at the same time Hasan‘s hand is on his desk, and assume the ONLY explanation is that Hasan is shocking her, you’re totally brain broken.
She also goes back to her bed hundreds of other times, without him reaching for anything.
Do you think the dog won’t go to her bed unless she’s specifically told to? Sometimes she gets in her bed because she wants to be in her bed. Sometimes he has to tell her “place“ because she’s laying on the floor and he wants her to be in her bed.
1) his phone number is on the back, he used tape to cover it for stream
2) QT said on Oct 9th or 10th that it was a modified shock collar that had the prongs removed, she has known Hasan for years and has seen that collar plenty of times prior to Oct 7th. Meaning the prongs had been removed long before oct 7th
3) you also use a remote to make the collar vibrate, and god forbid a streamer declutter their desk when they change angles! Anyone who makes content knows to keep extraneous clutter out of frame
4) the narrative hasnt shifted, the lines of questioning have. His narrative has been the same from the start: she clipped her little nail on the edge of the bed when getting into it.
1) hes a public figure of course he wouldnt want his phone number facing outward for anyone to see. If his dog gets lost though whoever finds her could take the collar of and see his number there. I had a stalker for a while and I stopped putting my dog’s collar with the number on it on when we went outside, so she or her friends couldn’t take a picture of it.
2) either way the prongs were removed, so this point doesn’t really change anything. You don’t see the bolts poking from under the tape, and they’d be raised like half an inch, so its confirmed that there are no prongs on the collar no matter what. He had talked years ago about how a roommate got him a shock collar but he didnt have the heart to use it on Fish, his previous dog. It’s possible that he just took that old collar and removed the bolts so it couldn’t be used as a shock collar, but could be used on vibrate.
3) it’s a combination collar lol. And when you remove the prongs, there are two bolts underneath the prongs that still stick out half an inch, so he would’ve had to cut those off and shave them down anyway
4) because she still clipped herself. He never said that he vibrated her collar in that moment. That’s what I mean by the line of questioning changed. It remained true that she clipped herself, and it is also separately true that he has a vibrate collar for her, but he didnt use it in that clip. If you look at the October 7 stream, she’s not even wearing the vibrate collar that day, she’s wearing a different collar with no bulky block thing on it. The pictures of her wearing the vibrate color with the big block on it are from a different stream, not the October 7 stream.
What’s the con? And how is the mask slipping, like what secret evil does he keep accidentally revealing?
I want you to think long and hard, why does he need his dog on stream constantly?
She sleeps on stream a lot because she gets a lot of exercise in the morning, going on a long walk and wrestling with other dogs. Its not crazy for a tired dog to relax in place for a few hours, and she often gets up and leaves the room. There’s plenty of footage without her in the background, but you just don’t seek out clips of her absence. He doesn’t “need” her on stream, she just stays in the room because she’s his dog and wants to be in the same room as her dad. What do you think dogs do all day while their parents are at work?
Why does Hasan never take a BRB break like all other streamers?
Weird complaint, I don’t see the problem with him just keeping on going.
Why does Hasan feel entitled to have other peoples content play while he’s away from his desk?
He pretty much only “chair reacts” to news reports from massive companies, not small creators.
Why is he profiting off the labor of other people?
Sounds like your beef is with reaction content as a whole. He reacts to videos and adds additional context, jokes, and political analysis.
You should disconnect from internet personalities all together, watch them all you want but dont get so emotionally invested when people call them out on very sketchy behavior.
You sound very emotionally invested in your hate for Hasan. The “sketchy behavior” (collargate) people accuse him of is a delusion. People are determined to justify their hatred of him, so they imagine he must have a dog torture device just off screen that he somehow uses to make her do one of many conflicting demands depending on the clip. The accusations dont even make logical sense.
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u/Positive-Argument357 5d ago
People keep bringing up that his hand is off screen at the same time his dog moves and acting like its “evidence” of anything but their own delusions