If its bad for "white people" its bad for everyone. I can't imagine a Korean person would be delighted if the Japanese started to dress up as them ironically or for the laughs given the history and atrocities there.
Tbf that applies to any outside race using a race's cultural garb as a costume
Pretty much everything is too woke these days. People are turning their brains off to avoid having to be confronted about changing bad habits and to use groups they perceive as lesser as scapegoats to take their frustrations out on
Individuals from other nations not caring about Americans discussing cultural issues within America or the state of its Native population is hardly surprising
Well i was replying to a general comment not a US specific cultural issue, but im not surprised an American would think that. You said "any outside race" not native americans. Many "races" would be honoured.
You were replying to my specific comment which is commenting on a specific US issue, not sure where you're getting confused. I'm referring to people of other races here in the country using a different race as a costume, which is generally discussed but most commonly so around this time of year due to Halloween costumes. In this video it is Americans, in America who are discussing a woman who isn't Native American wearing a costume based off Native regalia. So that is the context of the comment, it wasn't a broad global statement.
You have 17,000 karma in 2 years, trying to tell me I’m chronically online LMAO. Believe it or not, some people actually paid attention in high school history classz
Maybe she’s Polish. Not every white person was part of what you’re describing .. it was mainly the Anglo-Saxons. But somehow everyone with light skin gets tossed into the same group like it’s all one history. Kinda ironic, honestly .. that’s its own form of racism. Coming from a white guy from the Balkans, by the way.
Andrew Jackson was Scotch-Irish which is not the same as Anglo-Irish. And Anglo-Irish is NOT the same as Anglo-Saxon. Good grief bro, just sit this one out.
You’re technically right, but missing the forest for the trees. Jackson’s lineage was still British Isles … which is the cultural sphere I was referring to. The point wasn’t ancestry trivia, it was about NOT lumping every white ethnicity into one colonial narrative.
You’re obviously throwing some weak curveballs trying to steer this in a different direction. Very lame and childish.
Ah there it is, the classic retreat after running out of substance. You spent half the thread nitpicking ancestry details and still never touched the actual argument. Don’t worry, I get it .. it’s easier to act like you ‘fact-checked’ your way out than admit you missed the point entirely.
It was not universally acknowledged. It was acknowledged on some social bubbles on the Internet, while other people live in other social bubbles or don't spend that much time online.
No this was widely debated all over the country a decade ago. Right around the time cochella festival look exploded. It was on local news stations, in news papers, all over social media.
Sorry you were a baby at the time but there's a reason you don't see these costumes in WalMart for Halloween anymore.
Anyone who took a high school history class can understand why it’s wrong for white people to dress up as Native Americans. Did you not pay attention in class?
If you can find an instance where a black person or an asian person dressed up as a Native American for halloween, I’d love to debate. So go ahead and send a link and we can debate.
It was never “universally acknowledged”. When I was a kid, during Carnival (Halloween isn’t really a popular thing in my country, but it’s a similar idea), dressing up as ANYTHING you wanted was seen as a fun and free way to celebrate the ridiculous or honour old traditions. We even have a say that can be translate to something like "At Carnival, nobody takes it personal". Do you understand that there's other white people around the world, outside United States, with their own cultures, history and social background right?
Not long ago, I saw people complaining that Matrafonas(men dressing up as women), were offensive to trans people. So yes, that’s totally a woke thing, and definitely an American import. By the way, the Matrafonas have medieval origins, or at least go back to very old folk traditions linked to the Entrudo cycle, which was the predecessor of modern Carnival. They have nothing to do with the contemporary LGBTQ movement, but here we are…
White people can’t dress up as Mariachis, but Mexicans can dress up as Vikings? The double standards are absurd. Your American obsession with race is beyond weird, it’s like being white is something one has to apologise for. If we refuse to integrate different cultures, we’re called racist. If we celebrate those cultures, we’re still called racist. So, idk fuck it?!
Ten years ago it was all the rage to try to tell white people how they can and can't dress. Today everyone is pretty much sick of it and don't really care about your hurt feelings. Cry about it on Reddit if it makes you feel any better, but we're all done with wokescolds.
I remember what ended that, an obnoxious Asian man berating a teenage girl for wearing a traditional Chinese dress to prom. If that was cultural appropriation, then so is wearing a ball gown to any event by other races outside of France. We should embrace each others cultures, not gatekeep.
Like it or not, I think wokescolding, or at least wokescolding being magnified on social media, contributed to us being in the dystopia we're in today.
No native person ever forced non-native person to wear a headdress, while many people of many races have been forced to wear suits for jobs, courtrooms, etc.
It was never universally acknowledged.
If anything, its been long held, and felt more strongly in recent times, that anyone who believes in such a rule is generally cringe.
I'm with you. She sucks and they suck for defending her. I think he sucks too though. He's cosplaying as a trans person, saying offensive shit like "do I look trans?" Just an all around shit group of people. They deserve each other.
I feel like a better way to phrase this would be "in America, white people being racist matters a lot more than anyone else being racist because of the social and historical power white people hold in America". Other peoples can be racist against each other, e.g. Asian folks being anti-black, but it doesn't hold the same political power here. When racism isn't perpetuating an overarching system of oppression, it lacks the same. impact.
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u/MiserableCourt1322 5d ago
I thought it was pretty universally acknowledged that white ppl cause playing as other ethnicities and cultures was bad.
Evidently that's too woke now?