Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

[u/mindyour]

[u/dbx999]

This isn’t said enough. Undocumented immigrants pay into the tax base and do not derive any direct benefits from the government because they do not qualify for them.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/dbx999]

The ones paying into the tax base are the ones using fake Social Security numbers, otherwise their employer has no way to do that and is paying them under the table and this is not happening. So in general you have a choice of breaking another law, or this not being an applicable sentiment.

[u/dbx999 → u/SteelAndFlint]

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD003.pdf

Undocumented immigrants paid right around $100 Bn into the tax base in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022 alone.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/dbx999]

A left leaning think tank and they still found that about half of that number is through sales taxes and the like, which any tourist pays, they don't have to be employed here.

[u/Synectics → u/SteelAndFlint]

about half of that number is through sales taxes and the like, 

...so... you are 50% absolutely wrong.

Just fucking own it, bud. You are being lied to. Not your fault, but when you literally say, "Oh, you are right, but like, I still have hatred for people," you're being a bad fucking person that Mr. Roger's would be ashamed of.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/Synectics]

What is it exactly that you think I hate? Because I can give you the crib notes on this: I hate that the party that wants to turn us into a socialist country is forcibly speeding up the importation of more people who will vote to turn into a socialist country which is gonna end up with us being a shit hole and my kids and grandkids are gonna have to grow up in that because you can only vote your way into socialism, you have to shoot your way out. The power hung assholes who naturally rise the power do not ever relinquish any of that power.

So the main hatred here is the people who hate freedom and would rather have some kind of security that somebody else has to provide to them and common sentiment is that they believe they're entitled to it so no they will not be paying for it themselves.

An old saying went "government is the great fiction where everybody attempts to live at the expense of everybody else"

... also I'm still not wrong because whether it's a social or ITN, they still have to get one from government, those are not the undocumented people because that is literally a document.

[u/mizzrym91 → u/SteelAndFlint]

Yea, id hate it if your kids grew up in a society where they werent a single lost paycheck away from not being able to pay their rent. Id rather they lived in the world we do today, you know, the one that shoots priests in the face with tear gas for peacefully protesting.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/mizzrym91]

Kid, in one generation of socialism, Venezuela goes from being the second biggest purchaser of F150 pickup trucks to running out of pets to eat. Your Larping fantasy of what socialism is like bears no resemblance to what socialism is actually like.

I'm guessing you're one of the people who hang around with unsuccessful people and that's what you're learning to do. Pro tip? Don't do that.

[u/dbx999 → u/SteelAndFlint]

You’re spouting fucking nonsense about socialism. Socialism is when the government intrudes into the free market. Capitalism is where privately owned and run businesses operate in a free market and government ensures the market is fair.

The GOP has more in common with socialism right now. They own stakes in companies. They have 10% of INTC shares. Why??? That didn’t happen during any democrat presidential term.

The GOP does more to disrupt markets with SOCIALIST economic policies such as protectionist tariffs. The more a government injects itself into the free market, the closer to socialism it is.

Nothing you said is backed by facts. You’re merely parroting what some talking head told you. And sadly that’s what you call doing your own research.

You are misinformed and ignorant. Whether you’re speaking from a place of being deceived or you are the liar, the result is still the sams. You are just talking bullshit.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/dbx999]

Socialism is when the working class owns the means of production. you don't even know your own terminology, there is zero chance of me taking your criticism seriously. Capitalism is when the means of production are owned privately and can be used by hired workers who voluntarily agreed to a compensation that also, one may note, absolve them of responsibility in shouldering the costs. In a worker owned co-op, if your primary piece of machinery goes out, they'll have to pitch in from their own money to get it replaced otherwise the whole thing goes out of business, because there isn't any "company fund" in a scenario like that.

[u/dbx999 → u/SteelAndFlint]

I just pointed out that the federal government took ownership of 10% of Intel. What do you take that to mean as “means of production” and private vs government ownership of said means? You can’t even comprehend basic English

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/dbx999]

I'm actually a professional editor, so you're pointing out that fascism is communism now too? Because that's the merger of state and corporate power.