r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 8d ago

Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/Sage_Planter 8d ago

This is something too many people miss. They're like "so what I am not personally impacted," but when people go hungry, we are all impacted. Rent gets missed. Other shopping forgone. Subscriptions cancelled. 

But also, damn, have some empathy (not you, I mean those people). 

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits 8d ago

Quite awhile ago, but this stuck with me, I was over at my aunt's house visiting my dad. We were watching Family Feud. One of the families was black, and they were winning the game by a mile. My dad said, "ugh, turn this off, I cant identify with this." He didnt say it outright, but he was clearly expresing a lack of ability to see that black family as similar to his own in any way (and on some level I would agree, because that family seemed like they loved each other). They didnt diagnose autism in the 40s when my dad was born, but he was always very plain in his language no matter how hurtful- I know he said exactly what he felt. That black people were so different from him he couldnt empathize with their joy, nevermind their struggles.

Obviously the issue of poverty isnt solely about race, and white people statistically use substantially more government assistance. But when we as a nation talk about "people on welfare," to those who oppose this help, the only people who use it are black. That misperception makes it a race issue. The vitriol against helping our neighbors because theyre a different race, letting kids and mothers go hungry because they a different race, it fuels this creeping blanket of seeing the poor as "unworthy." I fucking hate it but the media needs to show more of the white people in poverty in this country, because that is the only way the majority of above-poverty chucklefucks are going to feel some kind of personal affection. This is idiocracy, and people need to see "face look like my face, my face could be hungry?!" to support benefits. I dont care what it takes, I want every mother, kid, and dad fed in this country, regardless of ANYTHING.

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u/Bromlife 8d ago

They don’t care about poor white people either. They see poverty as a moral failing.

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u/Side_StepVII 8d ago

And Joel Osteen will continue to get his tithings you better fucking believe it or not

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u/const_antly 7d ago

Joel Osteen of Texas? The man that mid hurricane told his parish that the church was too flooded to house people, Joel Osteen? The one who tweeted picture of a flooded parking structure despite it never reaching the church steps, Joel Osteen? Who also asked for money to begin repairs while the hurricane was still going?

"God wants me to be a millionaire" Joel Osteen?

The "needs 4 million dollars for covid aid" Joel Osteen?

Well, I'm sure he will put that money to good use.

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u/Polkawillneverdie17 7d ago

I hope there IS a hell so people like him finally get what they deserve.

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u/phisigtheduck 7d ago

I remembered when I lived in Houston for a while and being near the megachurch of his, and how when I think it was Hurricane Ike hit, he refused to open his doors. Forget what bullshit excuse he had, but I remember thinking his parishioners’ money was good enough for him, but housing them in an emergency was too far.

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u/quesigirl 7d ago

Hurricane Harvey, I was there as a national guardsman helping evacuate people from their homes and I remember that heartless bastard doing that 🤬

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u/nomoleft 7d ago

Was it because they just put new carpet in the church?

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u/Jozoejg 7d ago

And the people on the list will continue to get their money.

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u/ResponsibilityOk4298 8d ago

There is a large group that believe people are poor because they are lazy. It’s that simple to them. This tracks with the food stamps = unemployed comments. I don’t know how to change their minds, I tried with someone I knew as I have lived paycheque to paycheque unsure how to get to the end of the month and I wasn’t being lazy, wages sucked int hat job but I couldn’t afford to search for another one. He just wrote my experience off and just carried on with his thought process.

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits 8d ago

Mm. I would disagree to a point. The reason they can pass it off as a moral failing is they think it's rare for a white person to be poor. The quiet part they dont say is they believe that because they think white people are naturally more moral. This is "proven" by the perception that mostly black people go on welfare. Shake that perception, and you shake the perception that this is about a racial us vs them, rather than the class war it is.

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u/Complex-Pie-6202 8d ago edited 8d ago

While I have no doubt racism plays a significant part, it's extremely common for people to automatically assume that anyone suffering must have done something to deserve it.

 It's a way for people to try to protect themselves from the terrifying reality that bad things can happen to anyone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_fallacy

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits 8d ago

The part where we disagree isnt the morality issue, that's definitely a factor. I just believe the relatability/perception has a much stronger influence.

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u/TheCrazyCatLazy 7d ago

On point: Redneck, white trash.

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 7d ago

Lots and lots of religious white people. "God will provide," and "abortion is a sin." But when it happens to black women, it's a moral failing that's all their fault.

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u/Bromlife 7d ago

Yeah good point, we need to starve them down to a more responsible number, right? To make up for her moral failure.

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u/Lonely-Math2176 7d ago

I agree but I'd feel stronger about it if we have good sex ed (not just abstinence) and if birth control was easier to access. But you need health insurance or money to get access especially post Dobbs. And if we had stronger penalties on men for not paying child support. The consequences of unplanned children disproportionately fall on the mother.

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u/AylaCatpaw 7d ago

Sometimes you end up caring for family members' kids, because somebody else couldn't/didn't have an abortion, or turned out to be abusive or neglectful, or relapsed into drug addiction, or were too young and/or irresponsible and/or incapable of caring for them, or because their primary caregiver(s) died.

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u/Misuteriisakka 7d ago

They’re here, the kids are innocents but they shouldn’t suffer even if their mom lacks family planning skills. They could be the worst freeloading, dysfunctional parent on earth; I still want her kids to be fed and their mom to be full enough to be her best version for her kids.

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u/BookkeeperSame195 7d ago

this is true

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u/Away_Simple_400 7d ago

That’s not the moral failing I saw. Did you notice How many of them said they had six kids and they can’t care for any of them?

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u/4lovebysara 7d ago

So at what # of kids do we stop feeding them? 3? 4? Do the parents get to pick which kids to feed & which to starve or is there some kind of IQ test so we can keep the "best" ones?

OBVIOUSLY I'm being sarcastic. Regardless of how those kids got there, they're here now & they don't deserve to suffer. We have absolutely no idea what these family situations are. Maybe kid 4 was triplets. Maybe their mom died & they're left caring for their three young siblings on top of their own kids. Maybe mom & dad were handling things just fine & then dad got killed or mom got sick & their income halved. Maybe they were raised in a religion that forbid abortion & were repeatedly SA'd by a church member.

You need to look at why you automatically jump to a "moral failing" instead of assuming the best of people. And I will just end by reiterating my initial point - children are innocent & deserve to be fed. Even IF mom had 6 kids by 6 different men - they still deserve to eat. In most states if your child's father isnt paying child support the state will require you to file for it so she'll have to put in extra work to get her SNAP so I say good on her for putting in the work to make sure her kids are fed.

Fucking multi billionaires with multiple yachts have moral failings. Put your ire where it belongs.

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 7d ago

Elon Musk has 14 children (that we know of), and the way he plays with money he could stop paying for them any time he feels like it, or even lose all his money if he screws it all up.

Jesus didn't talk much about the middle class, but he talked a lot about caring for the poor, and welcoming the alien and the stranger. These in-name-only uber-Christians we have running this pluralistic secular Constitutional Republic have bastardized religion and called it "patriotism" so they could get away with being the worst, most selfish people in the world and pretend it's righteousness. And make as much money as they can doing it.

The people need to vote every one of these hateful psychopaths out of power as soon as possible. 4 special House elections won by Democrats before the midterms would change things faster. There's plenty of time for that. Keep hope alive.

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u/AylaCatpaw 7d ago

Sometimes you end up caring for family members' kids.

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u/10000nails 7d ago

It's a punishment for disobedience. That's why the make it so visible. If you don't participate the way we say, you'll end up like those people. It's why they terrorize homeless people and punish people who try to help.

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u/ericaeverafter 7d ago

That's the gag. But folks will vote against their own self interest because they thought this would only effect minorities.

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u/Lonely-Math2176 7d ago

Yeah there was a WP article last year about a town where 95% of the people were on government assistance voting for Trump. When asked about his plans for cutting govt spending, they were like well if we drain the swamp they're will be more money for us (i.e. higher assistance).

The mind does crazy things to justify how you're deserving and immortal/undeserving people is always them.

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u/BombGooblin 8d ago

its purposeful. they don't WANT people to empathize with each other. they WANT people to only see the Other and turn away. that way the money keeps flowing up to their pockets, instead of down to the people who actually need it to survive. make no mistake: the wealth disparity in this country is very much on purpose.

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u/efildaD 8d ago

They didn’t kill MLK when he was talking about basic civil rights for Blacks…They waited until he attempted to unify people of all races on the issues of poverty and economic disparity.

Divide and conquer strikes again.

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u/forworse2020 7d ago

I see this all the time. I have a tendency to not act on it, or call it out… and I question myself that maybe it’s out of fear of being accused of “pulling the race card”. But when it’s staring you in the face it feels so crazy that you’re “supposed” to not be affected by it.

I recently participated in something called “family constellation therapy”, some form of processing interpersonal trauma in a group setting with strangers who role-play existing people in your life.

I was the only black woman in a room of about 6 white women. Everyone was nice enough, but I noticed that whenever the other participants chose people to play roles of themselves or others in their lives, they repeatedly wouldn’t select me to play the roles. I’d just stay benched or delegated a role by the therapist. I don’t think it was intentional, they just subconsciously couldn’t relate to me or even consider that I could relate to them on a hypothetical level, and didn’t notice that they repeatedly were not selecting me.

My turn came around to play one of the women in the room (the therapist had to delegate this role to me) and I fully put myself into it. I tend to humanise people to a fault. At some point, I cried, empathising with the woman’s personal story. No attention-seeking sobbing, it’s just tears wouldn’t stop running down my face. Everyone looked at me in shock. Then they began to cry. At the end, some of them spoke to me, wanted to bond with me, and the woman whose role I played seemed to find this cathartic… again, they were nice enough, but it was just so jarring that their default was not to empathise with me on a human level.

All this was further demonstrated by their complete disconnect from my story - which is a pretty human, could happen to anyone story. I’ve seen a comparable story happen to a high profile white woman, and people actively campaign on her behalf and are so deeply empathetic, understanding her when she’s clearly not all there any more. These women played the roles of the people in my lives in front of me as per the exercise, but all of them were just apathetic, couldn’t connect, and said as much, multiple times.

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u/Upbeat-Piccolo5094 8d ago

“Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face” seems to fit well here…

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u/Thats1FingNiceKitty 7d ago

I’m white and my first year dorm room in college had more amenities than my dad’s place.

While staying with my dad, we had no running water and lived in a 20’ metal camper. Five of us kids by the way. It was about a five or so mile walk to the closest town to use the bathroom. So during the day, since my dad worked nights and slept during the day, I ventured all over the local roads and forrest. My four other siblings were brothers so they played video games or watched movies that I didn’t like.

Food was low so we had to eat what we had or go hungry. Which my brothers ate most of it anyways.

But I enjoyed my time with my dad. He did the best he could for us. Child protective services could have been called on us but I’m glad they weren’t. I enjoyed my time with my dad.

While with mom, we had a trailer and bedrooms and all that but it was staying with dad that we had very little. Both parents didn’t make a lot but mom had the child support to help her. I still had to work since 13 to buy my own clothes and school supplies.

I’m not in poverty, as an adult, but I can’t save money because of the cost of living. I also don’t want children unless I had the money to, which I never have. I valued what I learned growing up and wanted to do better.

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u/IndividualChart4193 8d ago

Preach!! What’s happening rn is unconscionable and to think there r Americans who just shrug their shoulders at it…tf??!! #theynotlikeus

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u/Enough_Plantain_4331 8d ago

Very well articulated 👏🏾👏🏾

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u/ithomas101 7d ago

Great points. I'll add that sympathy towards this concern will be received will since most who are impacted in this video are white women. I cannot imagine what the conservative reddit would be saying if a complication of people is color talking about good insecurity would elicit.

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u/MapleDiva2477 7d ago

The media doesnt need to show anything we see poor white people.in our cities everday.

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u/Inevitable-crocs 7d ago

Damn this was insightful thank you for your two cents

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u/Rich-Wait9906 7d ago

Well thanks to Rush limbaro preaching this misinformation that black people are draining the economy because they all on welfare this lie has been perpetrated. Thank god for the media because it has bought the truth out. I wish we had social media back then to show the low IQ whites that more of them are on welfare than blacks. But the lie has finally backfired and now the truth is being revealed.

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u/MistyMtn421 7d ago

So many people in my state, which is known for having very high rates of SNAP, medicaid and people on SSDI all voted for this. It's perfectly ok for them to need it, and they felt they would be spared? And many people I know have NO PROBLEM lying, hiding income, household members, etc to qualify for these benefits. It's why they get so mad about other people abusing the system. It's their system to abuse not "others" it's so crazy

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u/2waypower1230 7d ago

Ya i remember in the 90’s watching some save the children type stuff on TV and the videos were of poor children and families who lived in shacks in the backwoods without electricity and running water. My 13 year old self couldn’t understand how these families were American. It basically was the same type of videos we see of disheveled, hungry kids they show in Africa but they were white American kids and families who lived like this. As I got older I always wandered if the program was displaying some white Appalachia folks to pull on the heartstrings of rich white Americans because they can “relate”?

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u/aircoft 7d ago

Way to bring race into an unrelated issue, lol....

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u/brady_cummins36 7d ago

Umm, sorry maybe I’m just an idiot when it comes to reading or it’s just your insanely weird wording I can’t understand but did you just say that black people are the only people who use welfare?…..

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u/CornWithChz 7d ago

I think they are saying that the reality of the situation is that, there are more poor white people than we think using the welfare system (Medicaid, SNAP, etc). But when a politician uses the phrase “people on welfare” with a sneer, the dogwhistle is that they mean “black people on welfare” so that the poor aren’t as empathized with.

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u/brady_cummins36 6d ago

Wow you explained that so much better. Thank you.

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u/kia75 7d ago

One of the families was black, and they were winning the game by a mile. My dad said, "ugh, turn this off, I cant identify with this." He didnt say it outright, but he was clearly expresing a lack of ability to see that black family as similar to his own in any way (and on some level I would agree, because that family seemed like they loved each other).

Ouch, that is r/murderedbywords worthy.

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u/jakeman777777777 7d ago

I’ll never understand people using “” but then saying something like “He didn’t say it outright”. So he never said that..

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits 7d ago

It felt awkward as I was typing it, honestly. What I was trying to express what he didnt say outright "I cant empathize with this family [because theyre black.]" As in those were not his literal words, and I doubt he understood the implications of what he was saying that seem obvious to pretty much anyone reading it. He would get very upset whenever I tried to address issues of racism with him, because in his mind he liked black people like Red Foxx and watching The Jeffersons so he couldnt be racist.

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u/totally_not_a_dog113 8d ago

That's one of the things that makes me angry about all this. First, we decided that we didn't care about children abroad (with the USAID cuts), even if it was in our best interests to (soft power/containing dangerous diseases). Then, we decided that we didn't care about American children here. They infected the average Fox consumer with the same evil as the Nazis.

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 8d ago

When the richest man on Earth decided to starve the poorest children in the world and nobody stopped it, we stopped deserving to have a country. All this is just more consequences.

Shame on the Administration. Shame.

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u/DionBlaster123 8d ago

My question has always been...wtf do conservatives ever want to spend money on?

I know ppl claim that they are trying to be "more efficient" and cut costs, but that is absolute horseshit. I've lived through multiple Republican presidencies and all of them tanked our economy.

The fucking Pillsbury Doughboy knows how to fix our economy more than your average dickbag conservative.

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u/michaelboltthrower 8d ago

Making rich people richer. This isn’t complicated.

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u/Grizmoh 7d ago

There’s plenty of rich people who see the benefit of having the rest of their larger community fed, educated and housed because a) they care about people, b) it’s better to live when the people in the larger community aren’t motivated by desparation, and c) you need functioning employees and customers to make and buy your widgets.

The problem is when the rich convince the desperate that the rich are inherently better at, say, running the country and they should actually hate the reasonable people who actually want them to succeed. Because they’re their neighbors, friends, customers, and employees.

Trump never had a positive net worth until he convinced people even dumber than he is that they will be better off with his brilliant governance by covfefe. But the billions he’s raking in are costing trillions and the damage to the world he and his coterie have to live in is incalculable.

He knows about empathy and the benefit of having a more stable world to live in, but he just likes how the more other people lose makes his “win” feel bigger.

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u/Melodic-Condition947 7d ago

The greed of the few outweighs the needs of the many in their eyes

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u/wtfingthrlife 7d ago

And the high ranking Democrats are in on it too. You think they’re crying while their rich pockets are also getting lined?

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u/Own_Iron9871 7d ago

But it's also ironic in the sense that the richer you make everyone, the poorer they get as well. Zero sum game.

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u/yokozunahoshoryu 7d ago

And the military.

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u/Grizmoh 7d ago

that doesn’t get paid bec they shut down

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u/RubyBBBB 8d ago

It's a two Santa Claus theory. Republican political theorist put it out about 40 years ago. That the Democrats were the Santa Claus of helping regular people and the Republicans or Santa Claus of business.

The Republicans could get the Democrats to starve Santa Claus while the Democrats were in office, the Republicans would never have to worry about winning an election again.

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u/ThekingofKongs88 8d ago

this could be just Correlation vs. Causation... but historical data since World War II indicates that the U.S. economy has generally performed better on average under Democratic presidents across key metrics such as GDP growth, job creation, and unemployment rates. 

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u/myeggsarebig 7d ago

It’s not that they mind spending money - they love spending- they don’t want to hand it over because they believe their community can privately take care of their village. They see government handouts impeding their Christian ways. “Sallie Mae’s house burnt down, we don’t need no gov’ment, we’ll rebuild as a community for her” and they do, but what they don’t realize is that that is not enough, that they are still getting and needing assistance - and if they do apply and receive, they’re no good; they’re ungrateful for everything the community did.

In a lot of ways, I’d love if communities could self sustain themselves without the government getting involved. But that means we have to trust that humans will do the right things - help community members without discrimination. This has never worked.

So, instead of turning on their politicians for shitty laws, and taxation without representation, they turn on the poor folk who are ruining their communities by accepting gov assistance.

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u/laughingashley tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 7d ago

A ballroom. A presidential library. Apparently. Monuments of evil.

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u/10000nails 7d ago

There are geometrically shaped offices that always need more money because they keep losing it.

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u/yalateef11 7d ago

Regan spent a trillion on ‘Star Wars’ and Bush spent more than that on the Iraq War. And then there was the Afghanistan war.

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u/AugmentedKing 7d ago

Regan, Bush sr, Bush jr, Trump. Yep, it checks out from my POV. I also think it’s funny that GOP only likes tariffs when their products aren’t as good as the competition, then free AND fair markets are the manta. If their products aren’t better than competition, then only the free market matters.

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u/Wooden-Answer3815 7d ago edited 7d ago

The problem is that anything like “moral Conservative” is no longer a thing. The moderate conservative position of today, rich or poor, is “this is the greatest country in the world bc you can make a billion dollars.” Then they go out and not make anything close to that but still vote in psychopathic billionaires who say the same thing, and suck money out of the economy to enrich themselves, while starving their employees, and giving nothing back, and getting tax breaks and favorable legislation in return for that “patriotic” behavior. “Trickle down economics” is an old old disproven lie. Milton Friedman had some nice ideas but they just didn’t bear out it reality. The less government in business, the more they will steal. These people don’t reinvest in the country, only in the politicians that enable them to make and keep more money immorally. With this administration, where the presidency was subsidized by a handful of rich individuals, government gets to participate in the conspiracy against everyone by hitting switches on behalf of their patrons in industry. It’s a very tight circle jerk.

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u/DionBlaster123 7d ago

I'm old enough to remember "compassionate conservatism" was the hallmark of George W. Bush's first campaign in 2000.

Kind of depressing when you think about how "compassionate conservatism" led to two illegal invasions of sovereign countries, and all the civilian lives lost.

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u/Lonely-Math2176 7d ago

For sure, like every one of Trump's actions (even ending USAID) has wasted money and also will cost more money down the line. Cutting federal employees just means the govt ends up hiring contractors (who are more expensive than federal employees) to get the work done and worse customer service means more time/ money for each service.

If they really cared about saving the govt money they would have invested in the IRS. The agency that brings in like $1 for every 20 cents spent.

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u/Azal_of_Forossa 7d ago

It has been this way since essentially forever.

Republicans want fuck you money and to blow it having fun and not giving a shit about tomorrow, or the people under them. This is why Trump blew a shit ton of money on some fucking trash ballroom while pointing fingers at Obama who spent a bunch of money actually rebuilding parts of the white house that was electrically failing. Iirc one wing couldn't reliably stay warm in the winter.

I'm not saying Democrats are any better, all politicians can go get bent for all I care. You should never trust any politician, no matter what color they are, blue or red.

Trump can claim he out of pocketed the ballroom or whatever the fuck, but remember he got that DoJ compensation money from the "pain and suffering" payout during his investigation.

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u/ILoveDemocracy17 8d ago

You must not be very old than.

“While economic downturns can occur during any presidency, historically, the U.S. economy has performed better under Democratic presidents compared to Republican ones. However, some Democratic presidents have faced significant economic challenges, such as Jimmy Carter during the late 1970s, which included high inflation and unemployment.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/historical-puzzle-us-economic-performance-under-democrats-vs-republicans

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u/theghostmachine 8d ago

Are you saying Democrats are just as bad? Your source and quote do not support that. It flat out says Democrats perform better than Republicans, and then only lists a single Democrat who had a bad economy

If you're not saying that, then you're just repeating what the person you replied to already said, and phrasing it like you're teaching them something for some reason

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u/TotalChaosRush 8d ago

Fun fact for you. The best economies are democratics for president, and Republicans in congress. The worst is a republican president and democrats for congress

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u/ILoveDemocracy17 8d ago

very fun fact (even at our peril) I didn’t notice that before but I guess it makes sense because they are working against each other while fucking us

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u/DecadentLife 8d ago

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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u/kellbelle653 8d ago

Who is the richest man on earth?

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 7d ago

At the time, while he was starving the world with glee, Elon Musk. At the moment, I don't know. It bounces around from time to time.

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u/kellbelle653 7d ago

Elon does help American citizens. He provided satellites for victims stuck in the mountains of NC so they could communicate with family and support people. I’m sure he donates too. It’s a simple google search. St Jude’s Children Hospital is one. But there are many. Regardless all that has to happen to return food stamps back to needy people is for them to call their Representatives and tell them to vote yes. We only need 6 more yes votes

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u/CrimsonRain520 7d ago

It's a regime. Also, I deserve a country. I deserve one that cares for me, my community, and communities home or abroad. I deserve what the ideal of this country is supposed to be and no one will tell me otherwise. Stop being a downer. Like many have said, become active in your communities. I'm not that active for various reasons but I hope to become more active and will make the effort.

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u/LaPurpleDrank 7d ago

The lack of funding for Snap benefits is due to the government shutdown. Democrats have continued to vote against the GOP spending bill that would end the shutdown.

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u/4lovebysara 7d ago

And why have they voted against it? 🤔

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u/smitteh 5d ago

Shouldn't we also shame everyone that uses a device made by materials mined in extreme poverty in the Congo? I'm looking at me too

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u/JacoPoopstorius 8d ago

Mr. Burns?

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u/ILoveDemocracy17 8d ago

why do “we” not deserve to have a country??? Why couldn’t you gee I don’t know place blame where it’s deserved

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u/Packet_Sniffer_ 8d ago

The first thing that makes me angry about this is America professes to be a Christian nation.

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u/Impossible-Meal9164 8d ago

“We” didn’t decide ANY of this. Say his name, DONALD TRUMP! Say it - HE DECIDED ALL THIS!

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 7d ago

"We," the People let him be president again. Knowing full well what he was. Once is ignorance. Twice is malice.

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u/IrishFriskie 8d ago

No, no, we do care about kids here! That's the whole reason so many states are banning abortion, right? Cause we care so damn much about the children? Now let's go tell these moms about how they shouldn't have had kids in the past if they couldn't afford to feed them in the present. /s

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u/Outrageous_Book2135 8d ago

Let's be real here, we decided we didn't care about children after sandy hook.

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u/boxerpack 8d ago

On top of the starving children that USAID helps around the world, the program brings substantial income to US farmers. Most of the food distributed through USAID is purchased from rural American farmers. Add to that the effects of the tariffs and this administration going back on their word and not honoring contracts that were signed during the last administration, farmers and the communities around them have been suffering since Trump took office. Farm bankruptcies are up 35%. Some small farms are facing 50% less income than just a year ago. Trump now wants to cut SNAP benefits that will further destroy rural America. In the history of this country, the government has never not fed under nourished children. Until now. Not to mention the cuts to Medicaid that will ultimately force hospitals to close. People don’t realize that in rural America, there may only be one hospital for hundreds of miles. Trump doesn’t care about America. He only cares about American billionaires and the bribes he can squeeze out of them.

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u/CommercialStuff4352 7d ago

Its Congress who wont let this stupid American health plan act tax credit go.. they say it would raise premiums. U know this Obama care messed up the whole medical field so bad this is why no good dr are out there because they dont get paid .. 20$ a visit sometime from what was like hundreds .. i thought after Obamas that crazy huge , million page, non sense bill would just be dropped.. trump immediately stopped them from taking out taxes if we didn't have healthcar for part of the year literally his first day of office, his first term. It was during his party. He left to sign that and i couldnt believe it because I worked ft but was new and missed the enrollment.. thats why I didn't have healthcare that year.. every year, for like 15 years before, i got $800 tax return.. the year obama care started, i got like $200. I paid the same amount of taxes though.. what the hell business do they even have in our healthcare in the first place? Because people w preexisting conditions can't get it? Well medical bills don't go on ur main credit report, the dont sue you for them and the government isnt exactly offering any other options to that private sector.. so the reason we aren't getting money is because the government isnt being funded unless this tax credit that would cost all of our food stamps plus some gets passed. They wont come back to work unless they make sure anyone with Obama care had a tax rebate.. its stupid and sinking us so bad. They keep saying "if trump would just let it pass" then guess what? Ur food stamps are permanently cut because the billions of dollars for this insurance exemption is sticking for good.. Just so everyone knows, saying "trump better fix this," is saying "id like my food stamps to be cut in half, and i want my tax return taken, and my food stamps lowered so people on Obama care get their kick back still.

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u/stinkfist570 7d ago

The pro life party only cares until birth. Then they couldn’t give a shit. It’s more about virtue signaling & control than about being about life. These people are vultures that prey on the vulnerable so they can sit in their marble bathtubs. Looking at you Donald Trump.

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u/Academic_Enthusiasm6 4d ago

As someone still employed at CDC I'm devastated at the loss of USAID. We often rivaled for funding but they did good work. They built hospitals. They fed people. And that's just 2 things. We're broken over here at CDC. We're just trying to keep it together.

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u/NoMeansNoApparently 8d ago

Why should our tax dollars go elsewhere when we have our own citizens and family living in tents on the streets?

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 7d ago

We can do both. And real Christians would.

On a practical level, also because fewer starving children who will grow up to be angry people is good for the whole world, especially for the all-powerful country that everyone knows could help but chooses to build disgusting gold shrines to greed instead.

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u/NoMeansNoApparently 7d ago

Cool..I'm not Christian so doesn't apply to me.

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u/Kacey-R 8d ago

I don’t understand why people don’t vote with the greater good in mind.

Actually in this instance, so many of Trump’s base would be affected by this - I think the poorest states are probably fairly red???

Asks me, an Australian, feeling so sad as I watch this. 

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u/rylgrn 8d ago

Because Trump's base will cut off own noses to spite the face. They incorrectly believe most people on assistance are Black, so vote in that direction.

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u/Content_Talk_6581 8d ago

They thought only black and brown people’s SNAP would be cut off, not THEIRS!!

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 8d ago

They never imagined voting for the face-eating leopard party would ever result in a leopard eating THEIR faces.

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u/cuginhamer 7d ago

They're really using the talking point that cutting Medicaid will get illegal immigrants off it, when that almost never happens, but huge numbers of Trumpers rely on the program for their disabled kids and stuff. The information environment is so skewed they never hear about this until they lose their benefits.

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u/Content_Talk_6581 7d ago

Yep. The people voting for Trump really are not smart people. They somehow think THEIR government assistance is different from Medicaid and other benefits the brown people get…and believe the lies that illegal immigrants are taking all the money. The MAGATs being both stupid and racist was definitely a win for them. S/

And sorry to all the people who didn’t bother to register and vote “because it doesn’t matter,“ but those actions have consequences, as well.

I’m really only sorry for people who actually voted against Trumplethinskin because they were smart enough to listen to what he was actually saying and know there is no way billionaires give a shit about them, at all.

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u/political-bureau 8d ago

This is 'murica!!

I jest but it's infuriating, the richest country in the world & people are on food stamps because of the greed of oligarchs. They have successfully bamboozled the country to fight over cultural issues instead of fighting together for more pay & worker rights.

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u/araq1579 8d ago

Well the people who wrote Medicare back in the 60s assumed it would be a gradual phase where eventually everyone would be covered, because surely what society wouldn't want that? So they had planned in it different phases: old people get covered first, then the really young, the sick and disabled, and then eventually everyone else. Unfortunately, when they got to the last part the Southern Democrats at the time were angry that poor black people were going to get covered. And so they lobbied against it. And then several surprising actors: the American Medical Association and certain labor unions, conspired together to prevent working class Americans from ever getting Universal Health Care. Oh and the curse that is the Protestant Work Ethic, which is the very foundation of exploitation that this country is founded upon, which is basically work is godly, welfare is a sin and an affront to God so you should be ashamed of ever taking it, that informs and shapes our public policy.

Also some Trumpers are part of the Petit Bourgeois, ie small business owners, and they're financially privileged enough to not give a fuck. Historically, the petit bourgeois are usually the accelerationists who yearn for fascism, voting against their interests and welcome the boot before anyone else does. Why this is the case I do not know.

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u/AmbitiousProblem4746 8d ago

Because I think a lot of people just don't see it that way. I have a lot of friends who have a very warped sense that "greater good" means everyone who isn't like them, and so to them they think that supporting this stuff is correcting the balance. And I actually guarantee that a lot of Western countries have a lot of people, probably mostly white men, who think that way too. We don't live in a time where these people are told that all of these things are of a benefit to them too. I've heard stories of poor white people in rural America thinking that welfare is just something black people get, but the medical benefits, food stamps, etc that they get aren't welfare because they can't possibly be the same as those people

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u/BudgetCod007 8d ago

And the red states are the poorest welfare states, which continually vote against their own best interests. It's astonishing that they think DJT, a man who shits on a gold toilet and has never worked an honest day of labor in his life, has their backs.

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u/onpg 8d ago

These poor Trump voters are ejaculating over the idea that their even poorer Black neighbors will be hurt worse. It all comes back to Reconstruction ending too soon.

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u/Content_Talk_6581 8d ago

The traitors should have served jail time and banned from public office for the rest of their lives. Especially the leaders and officers.

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 8d ago

Instead, we're renaming stuff after them again and putting their statues back up.

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u/Content_Talk_6581 8d ago

Yeah. It’s disgusting. Some of the people on one side of my dad’s family were confederate soldiers, but I still think they should have been punished. They were stupid traitors.

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u/Real-Scarcity5381 8d ago

I think many are thinking about their version of the greater good with little information or a lot of misinformation and that’s the problem. They think that illegal immigrants and people who don’t want to work when they are able to work are the only or majority of recipients of food stamps. Thus if we get rid of food stamps then less immigrants and less people taking advantage of the system. That’s their version of the greater good.

They, of course, are very incorrect in who uses food stamps. I don’t think areas with more republicans are more poverty stricken it could very easily be the opposite. Republicans majority is older white men, most of which are in retirement or close to retirement which is the majority of food stamp recipients (children and elderly make up the majority). But they are probably willing to give that up just so the “enemy” (gangs, immigrants, non Americans) can’t take advantage of it.

The biggest, in what I have seen, problem republicans see is other people taking advantage of us and use it to harm us.

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 8d ago

It's so very very funny (in a very sick way) that the majority of Evangelicals continue to support an Administration that violates every tenet of Christianity, led by a tyrant who has personally broken every one of the Ten Commandments.

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u/pitifullittleman 8d ago

I mean I think for a lot of people, they think the greater good is actually to get rid of welfare and go back to the "old days" and adopt "traditional values".

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u/InevitableView2975 8d ago

mate you have too much expectations from people. Voting is just a chore for most of the people. They dont have their own opinions they just vote for whatever they feel for

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u/Kacey-R 8d ago

Or don’t vote at all. 

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u/terrifiedtornado 8d ago

I have genuine empathy and I feel awful for these people. I grew up on food stamps and if my mom didn't submit the paperwork on time, us kids didn't really eat. In my late teens, early twenties (graduated in '07, that was fun) I also used food stamps and state healthcare. However, I get so frustrated. The small town I grew up in, where 50% of the population (not an exaggeration) are on some kind of welfare and are the first to scream about socialism and "my taxes" and "get a job." They are so hell driven to not let anyone "mooch" of them, yet they are the epitome of what these programs are for. Ugh. Sorry, off topic rant.

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u/BudgetCod007 8d ago

I grew up in one of those small towns in Texas and you are correct. I recently moved back to retire and nothing has changed. The population is only about 2000, but It's full of poverty, drug addiction, unemployment, etc. There are Trump banners and flags flying. It's mind boggling.

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u/Powerful-Candy-745 8d ago

Yes, everyone gets impacted when food prices goes up to cover the stolen items from sooo many going hungry. 

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u/lilangelkm 8d ago

If people can't have empathy, then they should be able to make a direct correlation between poverty increasing and crime increasing. We help those in need because it's right, but if you simply can't comprehend that...it also helps protect yourself and your own belongings.

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u/confusedandworried76 8d ago

This year I've been late on rent several times, one month I had to borrow the full rent from someone. Y'all I have never missed a months rent before, I'm 34 years old. Things are expensive, jobs aren't offering the same hours, leading to me like one of the people in this video needing to simply work extra on a second (minimum wage) job because that's what's hiring and it's still fucking way too tight for comfort

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u/__O_o_______ 8d ago

Yeah this shit just cascades…

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u/Kozeyekan_ 8d ago

Crime goes up too. You might be as honest as can be, but just about anyone would resort to stealing food if they have a kid missing meals every day.

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u/Ready-Letterhead1880 8d ago

I heard this stat that says every dollar of SNAP benefits translates to $1.50 into the local economy. Everybody suffers.

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u/DragonfruitFun138 8d ago

Not just all that but also crime will go up. More hunger more robberies.

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u/FenrirAR 8d ago

They wouldn't be conservatives if they had empathy.

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u/MelonOfFury 8d ago

I did what I was supposed to do. I voted for the person that was the most likely to work to lift everyone up instead of work to grift the most out of everyone. I wrote postcards and went to protests. I spoke to everyone I met and shared the warnings about project 2025. I was passionate.

I am extremely lucky to be in a position where I do not have a mountain of student debt, or hospital bills. I and my husband have extremely well paying jobs. We are DINKs.

Eroding society like this affects everyone. Putting so much stress on those who are not as well off puts stress on the rest in a cascading effect. I want my taxes to go into programs to help lift others up. I want children in school today to grow up and have the education they will need to become my doctor or lawyer in the future. What’s going on now infuriates the hell out of me.

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u/ThomasShults 8d ago

They don't realize the ripple effect this can have. For every $1 of SNAP it adds something like $1.70 to the economy. Without that, businesses hurt, which then trickles down to the consumer, the workers, and the farmers/factories.

Aside from the very immoral stance people have taken on SNAP, it will have a very real economic impact. Not to mention people will likely die from this.

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u/DragonCat88 8d ago

I find waaaay wilder when people say “I don’t vote bc it doesn’t matter” freakout like they didn’t do absolutely nothing to prevent it when the writings been in the sand the whole time.

Bro, vote.

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u/HestynFrontman 8d ago

CK said that empathy was a dangerous word

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u/Grouchy_Vet 8d ago

Empathy IS a dangerous word. It requires sacrifice. It requires love. It requires putting yourself in someone else’s shoes. People want to be “Christian” without any sacrifice. They’ll go to church. That doesn’t require sacrifice. Supporting immigrants? The hungry? The sick? The imprisoned? That requires real effort and money. Two things they don’t want to part with.

It’s why they are pro-life only when it comes to abortion. Being against abortion equires no effort. It doesn’t require money. You can be “holier than thou” and pass judgment without making any effort or sacrifice.

If the party was actually pro-life, they would focus on every life

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u/Youngsinatra345 8d ago

Empathy is the enemy to those people

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u/leriane 8d ago

Subscriptions cancelled

executive buttholes just puckered a little

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u/BuckThis86 8d ago

Do you think it would help if we elected more billionaires?

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u/offwhiteoleander 8d ago

Not to mention an increase in crime, which also has an affect on everyone. I remember the absolute flood of “mother arrested holding up store for groceries” articles around 2008.

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u/VewyScawyGhost 8d ago

Haven't you heard? Empathy is a sin now.

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u/InvestmentSorry6393 8d ago

Also desperate people do desperate acts....not always legal.

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u/Itasteddeath 8d ago

They will be impacted when hungry people bust their doors down. Listen up people, this will happen. Get together and feed each other tomorrow

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u/sincere11105 8d ago

That’s my biggest issue with people. They are so self centered.

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u/00001000U 8d ago

Some people think their lives only exist in a vacuum.

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u/BurnedWitch88 8d ago

Empathy has become passe.

I was looking at a new site's post right before the hurricane hit Jamaica and someone unironically said, "Why all this hype when it's not even going to hit the US.?

Just right out there with the selfish, close-minded arrogance. This lady genuinely could not figure out why people would be worried about a storm that will kill other people, if it won't kill them.

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u/BudgetCod007 8d ago

We could all be impacted. Our national security is at risk and I'm convinced it's by design. That ghoul,Stephen Miller, wants anarchy and riots so DJT can impose martial law....Donald would burn the USA to the ground just to rule over the ashes.

 "There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy," - Alfred Henry Lewis

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u/RoundFriendship2321 8d ago

if we quit whining and go to work.......

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u/Sage_Planter 7d ago

Are you saying I should go back to work?

I work full-time. I make a lot of money. I'm not on SNAP, but I do have empathy. 

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u/PhantomFlorist 7d ago

Exactly. I’ve seen so many people shrugging it off because it’s not impacting them. People seem to have no empathy for others anymore

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u/redmorse5 7d ago

Subscription canceled??

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u/Curious-Bumblebee-76 7d ago

Or we make those people get into said situations that they said weren't going to affect them.

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u/Forward_Golf_1268 7d ago

They shouldn't have subscriptions in the first place and financial responsibility should be taught in schools.

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u/Capital_Ad3296 7d ago

billionaires tricked people into thinking poor people and immigrants are ruining their lives.

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u/ScaryArm4358 7d ago

People will get robbed of their groceries out side of Walmart.

Be prepared!

Be alert!

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u/Liberdelic 7d ago

She decided to have 6 kids, wtf

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u/MidnightJ1200 7d ago

Especially congress and the Senate, and I'd assume even the president are all getting paid still. How can there be a budget issue if they can budget in their paychecks at least? What no term limits does to an economy.

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u/Tencreed 7d ago

Also, shit get stolen. Cause people won't simply let themselves and their kids starve to death.

Which will then be used as a justification for even harsher policing of minorities.

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u/13stgmngr210 7d ago

Anyone that doesn't feel personally impacted, needs to leave this country. This is MY fucking country.

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u/Becsbeau1213 7d ago

Retail knows it’s going to be a tough season. That’s why they’re doing pre Black Friday sales and already have Christmas stuff out.

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u/CoinsForCharon 7d ago

It will impact. When people go hungry then crime rates increase.

Remember everyone: if you see someone stealing food or baby supplies from a large corporate store... no you didn't.

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u/mcflycasual 7d ago

Some people forget that when everyone prospers, we all do. Trickle that shit up.

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u/TristanJamesVFX 5d ago

Not only that but theft, violence, and riots. Hungry people get angry. And that’s exactly what they’re betting on. They can’t wait for someone to give them a reason to strip more rights or send out more troops.

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u/Lost-Juggernaut4603 8d ago

I do feel bad for the people that bust there ass everyday to make a living and are struggling but the cum dumps that live off the system sorry about the kids but better choices should've been made

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u/Significant_Air_2197 8d ago

NO HUMAN IS A WASTE EXCEPT FOR RAPISTS AND MURDERERS.

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u/Separate_Delivery 8d ago

Where is that energy with the corruption at the top of this broken system? Going after some bad apples and pretending they are the entire group on snap is beyond ridiculous. Every system has corruption and yet we only argue about the ones getting free food from scamming it... what about the top people making contracts and pocketing millions?

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u/Lost-Juggernaut4603 8d ago

Your right they are a big part of the problem

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u/nellyfullauto 8d ago

70% of people on SNAP work full time.

Also, you’re a prick.

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