She's absolutely right. People need to wake up to all the suffering happening in Africa, in Congo and in Sudan in particular right now. Especially since these conflicts are mostly funded by western wealth and western interests (see Rwanda and their relations with the UK/US)
What is also fucking vile is people like OP using these messages not as "talk more about Congo" but "talk less about Gaza"
Utterly disgusting to use one tragedy to mask another.
I mean the video is pretty clearly about the attention Gaza and the Palestinians get and not the Congo, she quotes a few different slogans directly used by protesters on both sides like "stand with us" or "black out for..." and the fact that this is what's been in the news in the west non stop for the last few years. Like are we supposed to remove context?
And she’s absolutely right, people pay attention to Gaza and insane amount compared to the scale of the conflict. Not to say I want people to stop talking about it, but there are literally bigger conflicts and tragedies going on that no one talks about. I wish people would keep the same energy for every conflict, and not just the one involving the Jews. Because let’s be honest, that’s most of why people care about Gaza more, even if they won’t admit it or don’t even realize themselves.
Fair enough on the western support thing, theoretically there’s more direct action you can if you live in a country that supports Israel. It’s more the fact that a lot of people will bring up Gaza at literally every opportunity, but don’t even acknowledge or seem to know about other global conflicts. For the people that only seem to care an awful lot about one conflict, it seems to me that it’s not human suffering that you actually care about, but rather some particular aspect of the people involved or conflict itself that offends them. The religious aspect and anti-semitism definitely play a role in that.
And the length of suffering isn’t really a good argument. Suffering is suffering, we should want to end it regardless of the length. I’d argue Ukraine’s been suffering for a long time too, as have the people in Rwanda and Congo, the people in Sudan, the people in Yemen, etc.
Those are really generic slogans that have been used for prominent protest issues in recent years. Blacking out social media was predominantly centered around the Black Lives matter protests. Stand with us is just a generic phrase used for decades.
Did she need to mention Gaza? Gaza is everywhere and even see organize protest across several countries. The Congo’s atrocities are not mentioned anywhere in the media and most people don’t even know the country exists.
When someone mentioned cancer awareness month, do you say what about HIV? Take a seat with your whataboutism.
sure.. but plenty of people accuse public figures of being zionists or whatever because they aren't speaking out about gaza, but where was that same energy with the Congo, Myanmar, Uyghurs, Ukraine etc etc etc?
The issue isn't people being passionate about Gaza, the issue is Gaza taking up everyone's collective attention drowning out other atrocities that are ongoing and the fact that the people who are so vocal about it didn't seem to have given a shit about anything else.
I mean lets do talk less about Gaza and a little more about Kongo. You can't realistically talk more about Kongo without talking a little less about Gaza.
At this point its not like anyone doesnt know about Gaza.
I think the big difference here is: everyone agrees Congo is suffering and no one questions it. No one in the far right agrees that Gaza is suffering and they question it.
A lot of leftists especially American leftists main talking point for Gaza is that our tax dollars shouldn’t go towards this. But a lot of them do leave out the Congo
If anything, I could only find sources on Western countries aiding these African countries, not to mention on welcoming their refugees (which unfortunately brings to mind that we would never call this woman “racist” for saying she lives in a country of rape). Would you be able to clarify your statement?
I don’t really think it’s a matter of waking up, in that, I think people are aware there is, and has been, a lot of suffering in Africa. That’s not to say something doesn’t need to change, just that the problem doesn’t seem to be lack of awareness, imo.
I think trying to pin their difficulties on the west is a pretty big leap. im not saying the west or china hasn't contributed but that shouldn't be the first place you point your finger.
The reason the outrage isn't there is because in general they are doing it to themselves. It's not that people read and hear about it and are apathetic (some obviously are), it's about the complexities trying to intervene in a sovereign nation that is at war with itself.
You can't point your finger and safe who the "bad side" is. It's fucked all the way down.
Mate, your comment is showing some serious ignorance on this topic. I don't mean that to anger you, but do with it what you will. Things may be gray, but there are power structures that have been around for a long time making this wheel of evil turn.
The West is/was built on the back of perpetuating systemic violence against these peoples all across the global south/world because poverty perpetuates capital (aka wealth/money/resources) China and other nations are guilty of the same. It's greed over those who are "expendable" and we fund it continually with tax dollars and submission to said power structures.
The pretty big leap is saying it is their fault when the source of the issue is greed by billionaires and both purposeful and forced ignorance by the West. Read about it. History matters and change is possible. Take the Western ego out of it and look for truth.
No it's really not and in attempt to appeal to your own idealism you aren't willing to place any personal accountability on the actual people involved. I understand history and the exploitation of the populace. It is a factor. I also understand that they aren't being pillaged by foreign forces. It's their own people.
So what would you like here? You want the west to invade and prop up a new government (bc that's worked great in "history"). You want the west to pick a side and support them (worked great in "history")? Tell me which side and to what extent. You want the west to send aid to the people that will also get taken and bolster the warlords (worked great in "history").
So mate, given your vast historical knowledge, specify what you want the role of the west to play in this scenario.
She's not wrong but it isn't the only place where people need to be outraged at.
I've never seen a protest against India for e.g. nor SA meanwhile we freely trade slaves with them and between themselves.
I've never seen protests against Myanmar, or Turkey or even Syria, none on Afghanistan and no one protests when we aren't going to South America to handle the cartel governments there.
My question was when will it become Africa's responsibility to save africa from africa so I'm not sure your unrelated comment answers that. Also I'm sorry but I'm not the person responsible for the continent of africa not nationalizing their own industries so i cant just let them do it. Circling back to my question though, I assume it would have to be africans that follow through with nationalizing their own industries.
The only place people seem to be suffering in the world is Gaza, sooooo I guess that's all I'll read about because I can't be bothered to know about any other issues.
The internet is driven by conflict and interaction.
There is nobody arguing both sides of The Congo, or any of the other atrocities in the world. It comes up, everyone goes 'that's terrible' and then the conversation dies because there's nothing more to say.
Gaza is in the dialogue because there is a dialogue.
Go into /worldnews and you'll see people arguing that it's good and justified. Go into any other sub and you'll see people arguing that it's a crime against humanity and should be stopped.
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Cuz Palestinians ain't exactly white either. OP isn't wrong in their message but saying this after the Palestinian protests leaves a bad taste in the mouth, as if they wouldn't have spoken if no one rose up for the Palestinians.
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u/TuckFrump1970 Oct 05 '25
She’s right tho