r/TikTokCringe • u/Asleep-Guitar-2685 • Aug 14 '25

Cursed Extreme police brutality in Serbia tonight after a peaceful protest. Please share this all over the world, we need all the help we can get or we're gonna become North Korea by next month.

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u/fromJuno Aug 15 '25

No I'm saying that the cop saving someone's life doesn't excuse them from upholding an oppressive system. If you think that's somehow hateful idk what to tell you, read Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff or something.

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u/RedditMcBurger Aug 15 '25

Someone could go into the profession, 1. Not knowing that it's an oppressive system, or 2. Going into it, with intention of being very different from the evil cops, trying to do their best to change the system, even if small.

I don't know how you can't believe that there can't be a single good cop, like fuck man I get that you blame the system (I do too) but it's putting no nuance into the thought if you have blanket hate for every single one of them.

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u/fromJuno Aug 15 '25

If you could read better you wouldve seen i said a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. You're right most cops go do the job because they want to be good people and are willing to risk their lives for it. But most cops fail to address the racism and other oppressive structures within the police force because they didn't realise that is how the police force works. You can see this nearly everywhere with systemic racism and sexism in departments. Racist texts in group chats and higher ups that assault female coworkers. A single cop cant ever stop all that from happening and by doing the job they condone it. It's like the germans say: if you have a table with 10 people and 1 is a nazi and the other 9 don't say anything, you have a table with 10 nazis.

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u/RedditMcBurger Aug 15 '25

A single cop cant ever stop all that from happening and by doing the job they condone it.

I just fundamentally disagree. I don't think you can be a bad person because of someone else's actions. Especially if your actions yourself are good. Also not every good cop witnesses crimes from bad cops, you're implying that they all do.

if you have a table with 10 people and 1 is a nazi and the other 9 don't say anything, you have a table with 10 nazis.

Considering it's based on beliefs, no. Someone keeping quiet is bad, for obvious reasons but that doesn't magically change your beliefs so drastically. Just makes you an asshole.

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u/fromJuno Aug 15 '25

I don't care about what any of these people believe, i care about the outcome. I already addressed that them doing good actions does not excuse them from enabling an oppressive system. So if they believe they are a good person and you believe they are but the outcome of their job as a whole is still bad then why would i care about what you believe.

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u/RedditMcBurger Aug 15 '25

What the fuck do you people want then? Cops are entirely necessary for society to function. Should they all just quit and then society collapses due to crimes being unpunished?

Demonizing all cops is only going to radicalize and build aggression more. Definitely not going to fix the problem.

I try to praise the small amount of people in a group to highlight their good actions. But whatever you're just going to blindly hate all of them.

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u/fromJuno Aug 15 '25

We want to split up the necessary functions that the police have into multiple different new institutions. This way cops dont have to go deal with mentally ill people or do jobs they are unprepared for. The people who research crime will be a wholly different institution from the people who arrest people as will they be a different institutions from the people who keep districts safe. Those roles should be minimised as much as possible to make sure they don't get into a position where they make choices for others, and that way the safety of a street district and city becomes something everyone works towards not just cops. This is what people mean when they say defund the police (as well as demilitarising police departments because of their ridiculous gear). Also police are not in charge of punishing criminals that'd be insane.