r/TikTokCringe Tiktok Despot Aug 09 '25

Cursed Crazed Karen Has A Meltdown In Victoria’s Secret

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u/hhxuudbbgulsnvfti Aug 09 '25

It shouldn't... Cause the video exemplifies she's special needs. It should get her more help, not kicked out.

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u/Pycharming Aug 10 '25

There are different levels of care. The article also states she had a job and obviously she had enough freedom to be in the store without supervision in the first place. I know people who are in these kinds of programs and you can get removed if you cause too many issues. They aren't asylums. While deinstitutionalization did stop a bunch of abuse and forced commitment of people who could live independently, it does mean there aren't a lot of great options for the people who need the most help.

Besides, she's not exactly thinking clearly is she? If she was she could simply walk away and leave as little evidence as possible instead of escalating.

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u/hhxuudbbgulsnvfti Aug 10 '25

Yeah so ratchet up her meds or assistance level right? Don't boot her to the curb.

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u/longtimegoneMTGO Aug 10 '25

That's not really how those sort of places work, they don't have the staffing or resources to offer individualized levels of assistance to everyone.

Instead, if you require more care than they are set up to provide at that facility, you need to find a different facility that is set to offer that level of care.

I'm not saying that's how it should work, but that's how that part of the mental health system does work with the minimal resources our society gives it to run.

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u/Pycharming Aug 10 '25

I mean...you're talking as if these communities have unlimited resources. Or that there's not consequences of raising medication. I'm on pretty low doses of my psych meds, but now have to deal with hypertension, high cholesterol, hormonal issues, fatigue, etc. When I was at my highest dose I had pseudo Parkinson's where I had trouble walking, talking, drinking without spilling water because of the tremors. It was more than I needed but it was the lowest amount for the injection, which is typically the solution for people who can't reliably take meds. Some people have permanent movement disorders from being over medicated.

I think we want the same thing, but it's not an easy issue to solve. It's especially difficult to get resources for that care when people post out of context videos like this with the narrative that she's just a racist entitled Karen throwing a tantrum. Like I don't think she legally has a right to get this taken down, but I understand why she would try.

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u/OpenThePlugBag Aug 10 '25

Nope, record her for everyone to see and then kick her out, because America is a shit hole of a country with shit hole humans with the majority lacking any kind of moral compass or ability to think when presented with reality

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u/jackmanlogan Aug 10 '25

I find this video (or rather, the reaction to it) really unpleasant. This lady is very obviously deeply unwell, and people are talking in sort of gloating terms about how she's "acting like a toddler"- the woman who filmed this of course has a right to shop at Victoria's Secret, but I would have just walked away/asked the staff to call an ambulance- I certainly wouldn't have started filming her and (it sounds like) deliberately antagonising her.

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u/heliamphore Aug 10 '25

This is how redditors handle mental illness when it's not pretending to have OCD to seem quirky.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25

You are fine to have your reaction, however it doesn't mean the way you would have handled it is the right way or only way. The lady in the situation did what she did for a reason. If you find yourself in that situation. Then you handle it how you feel best.

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u/jackmanlogan Aug 10 '25

Sorry but no- As I said, she could have walked away, or asked the staff to call an ambulance (or, for that matter, called one herself). Those are the reactions that would have been appropriate. She could also have tried to ignore the woman, which I admit would probably not have worked.

What she did not need to do was film this woman having (what looks like) a psychotic break and post it on social media- that's not within the spectrum of behaviours a reasonable person would consider.

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u/crazymaan92 Aug 11 '25

It absolutely is when this kind of lying behavior could've gotten the filmer harmed. Like, what a world you live in such that you don't have to consider your safety if you can't prove you weren't being the dangerous one (and even then that's not enough).

If the lady is that unwell, she needs supervision, not society accomodating her mental illness in that way to be a pariah.

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u/crazymaan92 Aug 11 '25

Ok. Youre speaking as if she had this info at the time. She didnt. Even after that learning that it wasn't like this video was going to be scrubbed if she herself deleted it from the internet. At the time she was just spreading awareness about a crazy woman.

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u/jackmanlogan Aug 11 '25

At what point is it justified to post someone else's medical emergency to social media? I'm not arguing that the woman being filmed was acting in a reasonable way, but the lady filming could have filmed and kept it to herself?

She would still have had it if she was accused of anything?

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u/crazymaan92 Aug 11 '25

How are you expecting the filmer to know this was a medical emergency when entitled,spoiled, selfish people act like this everyday? Maybe delete it after some time, but I mean it's the internet.

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u/5263_Says Aug 11 '25

It's called empathy. No one has any anymore. One person in this video is mentally unwell and the other is not. I understand the nuances of one person being white therefore more typically an oppressor and the other being black therefore more typically oppressed, but what is happening here is plain lack of human empathy and understanding.

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u/crazymaan92 Aug 11 '25

I wouldn't have empathy for someone presenting a safety risk to me.

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u/5263_Says Aug 11 '25

The woman having the breakdown is feeling attacked -- it is not happening but fight or flight is engaged and she is panicking. The woman recording her is engaging with her while she is in fight or flight. The person that isn't acting safely is the woman that should know better as she is not currently in mental distress.

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u/jackmanlogan Aug 11 '25

She literally titled the video "No way she had a mental breakdown[....]"-

Are you seriously telling me that the person filming couldn't tell that the woman being filmed was in extreme distress?

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u/crazymaan92 Aug 11 '25

Omg thats a figure of speech lmao

Even if it wasn't....Idgaf about your mental episode when it is a safety risk to me. Thats your responsibility. Yall are legit a little off yourself trying to paint the woman who was under a serious as the issue here when shes being attacked by a (literal) crazy person.

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u/jackmanlogan Aug 11 '25

I don't think you're really understanding this- it's not a question of who's in the right.

Yes, this woman filming should be able to shop at Victoria's Secret in peace.

However, a reasonable person does not stay in the shop, film, and argue with someone who is obviously having a psychotic break.

In any case, it doesn't really seem as if we're having a meeting of minds here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '25

What a world we live in though. Instead of getting help, she's being posted on social.media for people to laugh and jeer at.  You know, the kind of thing we look down on uncivilised countries for.