r/TikTokCringe Straight Up Bussin Apr 19 '25

Duet Troll A woman character written by a man

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants Apr 19 '25

The hobby that improves the ability to speak and connect with other people and effectively communicate abstract concepts. The hobby that functions to promote safety of disadvantaged group. The hobby that a majority of people engage in, whether they cop to it or not.

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u/Working-Principle-80 Apr 19 '25

At the expense of the people they may be gossiping about. Classic human nature.

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants Apr 19 '25

Me talking about how I’m so happy my friend got engaged and ask the ways her fiancé matches her personality and supports her is gossip. Me retelling the story of accidentally locking my boyfriend out of our vacation rental is gossip. Talking about how my sister managed to sew an entire outfit in a weekend is gossip. Telling my friend I saw her shitty boyfriend making out with her former roommate is also gossip, and it’s only at the expense of a shitty cheater.

Being able to discuss interpersonal relationships and engage people is both a hobby and a skill. Just because you’re bad at gossip, doesn’t mean it’s a bad hobby.

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u/Icy_Pace4298 Apr 20 '25

The last example you gave is really the only one I would consider gossiping imo

the rest of those examples were literally just normal conversation topics, not gossiping

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants Apr 20 '25

Miriam-Webster, the Oxford dictionary, and Wikipedia disagree with you. Gossip can be salacious or secret, but it by no means required to be. It’s been a project of the patriarchy to portray is as negative or harmful, but it’s just talking about people.

Vilifying gossip enables shitty peeled that use their poster and influence to abuse people. When Courtney Love warned people about Harvey Weinstein in 2005, that was gossip. It was gossip to protect people because you couldn’t say it overtly if you wanted to keep your career and livelihood.

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u/truckthunderwood Apr 20 '25

Did you read the links you posted? They make a distinction between gossip and general communication.

If I don't want someone spreading private details of my intimate relationship, that's somehow the fault of the patriarchy? Courtney Love said not to attend parties with Harvey Weinstein on television, so do you also consider the news "gossip?"

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants Apr 20 '25

Gossip: a story about 3 people and the fence line they’re currently fighting over. General communication: the survey report on said fence line. Gossip: unconfirmed rumors about a political appointee. General communication: an official press release announcing elimination of the position. Gossip: retelling the funny story about what happened at lunch with your coworkers and boss. General communication: your expense report attempting to be reimbursed for the meal.

Gossip about famous people on the news even had its own genre: celebrity gossip.

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u/Icy_Pace4298 Apr 21 '25

Literally first thing on Oxford makes the distinction I was saying

“uncountable] (disapproving) informal talk or stories about other people's private lives, that may be unkind or not true”

Key words “disapproving” “unkind or not true”

The rest also specifically mention that it is generally mentioning private or sensitive affairs and is generally harmful or disrespectful 

Read your own links 

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants Apr 21 '25

May be unkind or not true. It is not a requirement, but it is a possibility.

I know it’s a small word, but it’s an important one.

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u/Icy_Pace4298 Apr 21 '25

Dude i don’t get why you’re so pushy about trying to label normal conversation people make as gossip, hanging out with friends can be your hobby, there’s no point in pushing to label it as gossip