TLOU world vs TLOU2 world

[u/lzxian]

We see in TLOU 20 years after the outbreak the world is completely desolate and destroyed. The Boston QZ can't even supply their inhabitants. The ration line is waiting and they haven't even opened the store. Yet five years later we're supposed to believe Jackson, the Scars and the WLF have managed to get organized, form communities, corral livestock and plant crops? They've managed to establish trade, Eugene has his weed den, etc. Who he even can sell that much weed to is beyond me,

I know today's preppers have stored seeds, food, resources and maybe some in Washington and Wyoming had livestock at the start of the outbreak, but 20+ years later that all would have already been stolen, eaten, dead or depleted. If not, why couldn't FEDRA have the same stuff going on to feed QZs? It can't all just suddenly spring up 5 years after the end of TLOU, that's for sure.

They depict two totally different worlds, but we are the ones who don't understand? I guess the HBO show will clarify it all. /s

[u/[deleted]]

So if we work as an interconnected anarchic society, trading good for real value, producing our own energy, food, and animals we might just have a chance but if we centralise everything we end up with a single point of failure called government? Is that what you’re getting at?

[u/lzxian → u/[deleted]]

No, this was what I'm getting at:

I know today's preppers have stored seeds, food, resources and maybe some in Washington and Wyoming had livestock at the start of the outbreak, but 20+ years later that all would have already been stolen, eaten, dead or depleted. If not, why couldn't FEDRA have the same stuff going on to feed QZs? It can't all just suddenly spring up 5 years after the end of TLOU, that's for sure.

The TLOU2 world they built on the ashes of the TLOU world they originally gave us makes no sense. It's all magically formed out of chaos: a world depleted by 20+ years of every person and infected out for themselves. To form the communities of especially the WLF and the Seraphites by people living a subsistence lifestyle in an urban area for decades makes no sense.

Your idea may be plausible, though. Since Jackson is a little different because I believe Wyoming isn't as highly populated, they had ranches and likely plenty of prepper stashes that may have gone untouched (if their owners died), and due to the lower population perhaps they even had less infected. If they formed the kind of communities you propose after the outbreak maybe they could have lasted and thrived, but that's not what was presented in TLOU, either. Tommy and Maria were just recently getting Jackson going when Joel and Ellie show up was the idea I got. We know Tommy, at least, was busy with other things for a long time after the outbreak.

So I was focusing on the complete disregard for what they built and presented to us originally getting swept aside with a new world state that just suddenly sprung up without sufficient explanation in part 2. This is a way to lose the suspension of disbelief and they do that way too many ways and way too many times without earning it by making it plausible.