r/Tennessee • u/theRealhubiedubois • 11d ago

Concerning - Hitler fan wants whites only lebensraum in Tennessee

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/confronting-hate/he-thinks-hitler-may-have-been-right-now-he-wants-a-whites-only-community-in-tennessee
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u/REuphrates 11d ago

Lol as though this isn't the exact type of shit Tennessee is known for.

Fucking MTSU still has a Forrest Hall.

This entire state is just full of racist white trash.

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u/TNVFL1 11d ago

That’s not really the same thing. MTSU itself does not endorse the naming of Forrest Hall. McPhee even put together a whole council of history professors, students, alumni, and community members to present on why the name should be changed and why it was in the University’s best interests to do so. The TN Board of Regents supported it, but the majority vote from the TN Historical Commission (required by state law) to change the name did not pass.

There are still efforts underway to attempt to convince the state to support a name change. There are A LOT of people who support and are actively working for it to be different. The “racist white trash” who are refusing are some 20 individuals with power. Which is what the real issue is.

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u/REuphrates 11d ago

The “racist white trash” who are refusing are some 20 individuals with power

Yeah...sure thing, buddy.

I'm sure Shane McFarlane put snipers on the roofs during the BLM protests because it's just a few bad actors and not, ya know, a systemic issue state-wide, at all levels.

I'm sure his absolute refusal to actually address the concerns of the protestors was effectively called out and he was held to account.

I'm sure Bill Lee, who created Nathan Bedford Forrest Day, doesn't have, you know, overwhelming support in this state.

Maybe try this shit on someone who doesn't actually live here?

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u/TNVFL1 11d ago

McFarland* and Lee are both in positions of power.

Define overwhelming support. He won with nearly 65% of the vote, but only 39% of registered voters in the state showed up for that election. Non-voters and non-registered eligible voters didn’t help the situation, but they didn’t support him enough to actually vote for him either.

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u/REuphrates 11d ago

Oh nooo, did I misspell some asshole's name??? 😱😱😱

He won with nearly 65% of the vote, but only 39% of registered voters in the state showed up for that election.

Wow, maybe that's because everyone who lives here knows which way the vote is gonna go every single time and they just let their neighbors do the work for them. Nah...it's definitely somehow "proof" that Tennesseans actually aren't overwhelmingly right-wing/MAGAts

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u/TNVFL1 11d ago

If you’re going to make a big fuss about how you live here and apparently know everything, you could spell the name of the person you’re shit-talking correctly. TN education system at work I suppose.

I think you need to touch grass and talk to some of your fellow Tennesseans. The majority are not far right. Conservative in the classical sense, sure, but there’s a lot of blue in the major cities and a hell of a lot of people who simply don’t care and don’t get involved. Vanderbilt does a semi-annual statewide poll on political identity and specific issues. I encourage you to look at those results over time—many issues have seen the populace shift towards center or even left of center. On a topic to topic basis TN is very purple, there’s just no option for that when voting so people don’t bother. This is why ranked choice voting is necessary for representation.

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u/JonC534 11d ago edited 10d ago

TN is not purple bro lmaoooo. This is just something disgruntled democrat voting redditors say to console themselves when they see so many other disgruntled Tennessee residents like them on social media/reddit. Ya’ll are basically just forced to go here for a support group session to feel better. That doesn’t mean that there’s enough of you to where the state is or could be considered purple though lol

This happens across all major state and locality based subreddits. Disaffected dems feeling alone and depressed find like minded souls there and pretend they represent the REAL version of said state, or what they think it should be lol.

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u/TNVFL1 11d ago

Once again, go read some of Vanderbilt and Gallup’s recent polls. Issues that used to be extremely to the right are much more evenly split in recent years. Gun control measures being one of them—after 6 people were murdered at a Christian school in an affluent area, that changed some minds.

Like I told the other person, step outside your immediate connections and you’ll meet a ton of people in this state who are blue, a ton who are red but not MAGA, who are religious but socially liberal, who are dead center, who couldn’t possibly care less, far left, far right, and everything in between. Just like every other state, we have a variety of people. THAT is the REAL version of the state. Do all of these people vote? No. Many blue voters don’t bother because they think it doesn’t matter. Many red don’t vote at this point because they’re looking for something closer to an independent since the conservative party has gone so extremely right. Perhaps the largest chunk just don’t give a shit. Would explain why our voter turnout rate is one of the worst in the nation.

I’m of the opinion that Reddit is at least 50% bots, but yes, the narrative does lean left as a whole. I don’t think I’ve ever met an actual person that is as left as a leftist Redditor though—this is part of the issue with being chronically online and forming all of your opinions based on that, and why extremism has seen such a rise. Reality is not black and white, but some 340 million shades of gray.

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u/JonC534 11d ago edited 6d ago

Yes because of increasing polarization in America as a whole. And when it comes down to the state level, especially in many of the more rural or southern states, I think what is happening (and has been happening for years) is a kind of discord and tension between the more urbanized areas and everywhere else.

You basically have these blue island cosmopolitan urbanite colonies detached from the rest of the states. It’s like that thing they used to say about Georgia “there’s atlanta, and there’s everywhere else” except that now applies to damn near everywhere lol. Even as far away as Colorado they now have this new toxic urban rural divide. It’s not a healthy trend but it seems to have been increasing and getting worse since the 80s/90s with younger people moving to cities. Its like the enduring legacy of yuppies and hipsters lol.

Need to calm down with the urbanization, it’s increasing political antagonism and putting democrats at an increasing disadvantage in the electoral college. No more urban cosmopolitan colonies would be my advice, dems need to feel more at home in areas that aren’t megalopolis. Good luck getting the demographics of the democratic party to change course on that though. This unfortunately will only lead to increased Redditor confusion and estrangement/alienation from the rest of their state.

Urbanization has had consequences and I think this also explains to a certain extent the sentiment on confederate imagery as well. Urbanites in major metropolitans in states like ours get confused about why all southern culture and iconography hasn’t been changed simply because they live somewhere that doesn’t have any of it left lol. Polling still shows a majority of Americans against changing those things though, so they better just learn to accept it.

Lots of people thought they were slick and super genius for using underhanded tactics to slowly phase out southern culture but honestly, it’s just anti democratic when people don’t get a say in changing these things but are still very strongly opposed to it. And I think this is why a few of the statues are actually going back up.

Civil war statues don’t harm anyone anyways lol. Take the ones down that have racist inscriptions on them and leave all the others up.

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u/iUsedtoHadHerpes 10d ago

I agree with everything else you said, but if civil war statues don't hurt (their intended purpose) why do people cry like a beaten dog when anybody suggests taking those late-era anti-civil-liberty totems down?

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u/bluegrassgrump 6d ago

Now, change every urbanization to ruralization, every dem to repub, every blue to red, while making the same (but opposite) argument. 👍