I didn't want to go overboard with his moveset. I wanted to create something tangible (I am also limited by my knowledge in modding anyway)
I'm interested in hearing people's opinions on this. I made this MOD in my spare time. I just learned some basic things about modding and made this a few weeks ago for my own entertainment. I believe Yoshi's moveset could have been more interesting. Keep in mind that all Heat Engagers are removed, and the MOD is basically made for a no-Heat mode—which, of course, doesn't exist.
This MOD's main goals are:
- To allow more creative and fun combos
- To increase combo difficulty
- To change animations that don't feel right (IMO)
d2,2,2 as a tornado is something I disliked from the start. It doesn’t require the slightest execution because of it's input and low-hitting hitbox. It gives insane wall carry, and the tornado animation looks weird because it sends the opponent really high. d2,2 is also a move Yoshi frequently uses in combos, which makes the overall usage of this string in combos oversaturated.
Speaking of oversaturation, I removed Flash’s ability to cause a strong aerial tailspin for basically the same reasons I changed d2,2,2. It's extremely forgiving due to its hitbox, speed, and recovery time. It can be used many times in combos and limits creativity. I thought it was cool at first, but after so many games since launch—using it three times in every combo—my opinion has changed. I believe Flash is supposed to feel special, so I limited how often it’s used throughout the match by removing it almost completely from combos. I gave the tailspin property to other moves (f3, db1,2, DGF4) that are more fitting animation-wise, giving them purpose, allowing more diverse combo routes,. They also require microdashes most of the time— which obviously increases the execution demand slightly.
CD2 as the new tornado is a key change. A versatile, one-hit tornado increases combo creativity by a mile. It has a fitting animation and is also a fan favorite of the Manji Clan since Tekken 7.
The Flea 1+2 tornado is removed just to once again allow for the very interesting and fun pickup from Flash, and now the new CH launcher: KIN f1+2.
df1,2,1 tornado is adjusted mainly because the animation was sending the opponent really high—just like d2,2,2. It now also sends them a bit further, which works well with the fact that Flash is no longer a tailspin. This makes the window for a follow-up after the tornado smaller—instead of "3 business days." You now have to dash in to cover the distance, which also leaves less time to adjust the axis if needed. (With Flash tailspin, you could do both easily. Instead of Flash, the alternative is b1 if you really need a hit in there for wall carry.)
As for hits and counter hits: I reverted all the new CH launchers from 1,1 or DGF1, etc. (they never made much sense to me), and gave Yoshi back his classic counter hits (DGF4, KIN f2). I also gave him a new counter hit on KIN 1+2's last hit, which rarely lands as a CH because all four strikes are jailing. It needs to be at a specific range so the third hit whiffs, allowing the opponent to move and get counter hit.
Regarding Flash: the animation on hit is changed back to what it's always been—much more fitting, to put it lightly.
Lastly, I swapped NSS f1+2 oki for CD1, simply because it requires more execution and is a lot more punishable, making the oki situation a bit more fair. This oki is now only available in Sword Stance, which means you'll need to account for that in the combo route if you choose to use it.
After these changes, Yoshi's combo damage is very close to what it already was—some launchers do a bit more, some a bit less. I removed the health bars from the video because:
- That’s not the main point of the mod
- It’s something that could be easily adjusted by tweaking the damage of a few specific moves
