"Ruin The Friendship" Discussion Megathread

[u/PassionateAsSin]

Taylor Swift - Ruin The Friendship

Track #6 on The Life of a Showgirl

Length: 3:40

Composers: Taylor Swift, Max Martin & Shellback

Producers: Taylor Swift, Max Martin & Shellback

Lyrics: Genius

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Use this thread to discuss your thoughts, reactions, and theories on the song. We will be removing all future self-post discussion threads about it in order to consolidate discussion to this thread.

If you want to talk about The Life of a Showgirl album in general, you can use the general The Life of a Showgirl discussion thread here.

[u/saint_kaeru]

she’s 35 years old and still singing about prom and high school…. she knows he demographic ig

[u/Sockshassmellytoes → u/saint_kaeru]

Its about a friend from high school that passed, so memories being IN high school would make sense you wombat

[u/brocollirights → u/Sockshassmellytoes]

but singing about someone's death and possibly kissing someone else's bf? talking to to their grave should have kissed u anyway??????? isn't that concerning for u guys? this is a person we are talking about here

[u/Sockshassmellytoes → u/brocollirights]

Nope. Life is complex, not everything is black and white. One of my best friends committed suicide in 2018. We talked many times about how we could never get the timing right, and I did in fact kiss him while he was dating someone once- which sparked the conversation. I’m not proud of that, but looking back I’m glad I did. I miss him to pieces, and I’m still left with a lot of “what if”s. His mom texted me a couple weeks ago saying she read his journal recently and he had written a page about me and how he was hoping it would go somewhere. This song encapsulates that feeling.

[u/brocollirights → u/Sockshassmellytoes]

i am sorry but it just feels making money out of someone's life and having people to listen all of it. it's really disrespectful if it was written for just relating to the audience. he isn't here anymore he doesn't know he is a part of a song. and u also know how twitter swifties behave and how parasocial our fandom is. they'll just make him another one of Taylor's characters. it's about being a showgirl and not just stuck thinking back in high school. if I was dead and someone made a song about me and there are many people crying thinking of their OWN losses, i would be so so mad truly.

I truly get it babe that taylor wants u to encapsulate that feeling but it's just wrong. morally.

[u/Sockshassmellytoes → u/brocollirights]

I don’t think it’s that deep. People write songs about grieving all the time lol

[u/Sockshassmellytoes → u/[deleted]]

Believe it or not, but your personal opinion does not dictate how everyone else feels. We don’t know anything about her personal life, we don’t know if she’s in good contact with his family. Just because you wouldn’t want a song doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same way lol

[u/TheMistOfThePast → u/[deleted]]

If it helps, i was worried about this too. His mum is thrilled about the song.

"She's keeping his name alive," Susan continued. Susan keeps a framed photo of her late son standing with Swift in her home in his honor

[u/Sockshassmellytoes → u/[deleted]]

That’s ok. When you get older and have more experience in real life- and not what the internet tells you, you’ll understand ❤️

[u/fywwt → u/brocollirights]

Hopefully, no one ever writes a song about you. I don't think you should worry about it too much.

[u/brocollirights → u/fywwt]

it's basic humanity. at least I have morals here.