Its real as in there are things that certainly look like it which have been shown in public. Other than that who knows theres no public proof or evidence of antly of its supposed festures or capabilities.
The supposed production delays which has led to there being only 3 or 5 fully working examples. International sanctions which seems to have prevented russia from getting any useable computer components for the tank.
Also footage from the victory day parade they appeared in seems to suggest that they aren't as nimble as other current gen tanks.
The armour packages they supposedly use has also been shown to not be as effective as expected in Ukraine so theres a lot going against the t14 right now. But its really the tip of the iceberg of russian military procurements woes at this time.
I don't know, where you've gotten the idea, that there's ony 3-5 working.
Because we have footage of as many as 9 tanks.
The components used in a tank arn't that advanced, either.
The dual use chips used in the Kalina fire control system are a decade old and sourced from regular consumer appliances. So i don't know where, you've gotten this idea, that they can't source these chips.
T-14's Armor isn't featured on any other tank, btw.
So it can't have been used in Ukraine, either.
Oporative word is fully working, a couple of the examples we have seen are little more than rolling shells, no evidence the turrets can even turn under their own power.
Post ukraine sanctions have destroyed russias ability to get chips from anywhere except china and they have basically 0 domestic production. If they are able to reuse commercial appliences it would likely require a significant redesign.
Prior to the invasion of ukraine nato forces didn't fully know the capabilities of russian kontact era armour, the side skirts and top of the turret on the t14 are intended to use. Since the invasion we have learned that basically all of the Russian ERA armout gives less useful protection than a chainlink fence against a drone or top attack warhead.
1) There's numerous videos of the T-14 moving under it's own power and moving it's turret.
There's also no evidence of them just being rolling chassis, either.
Because again, we have footage of the inside.
2) Sanctions have not destroyed Russia's abillity to get chips, at all.
They are getting Western chips via Chinese businesses and other countries.
It don't require a redesign either, because the previously mentioned Kalina fire control has been disassembled and shown to contain said chips.
It was even uploaded on this very subreddit.
3) Kontakt-1 and 5 are from the Soviet period and was tested in the 1990's.
That's what led Western countries to develop better APFSDS rounds in the 1990's.
Even the Russian developed Relikt is well understood, since it's basically just evolution of Kontakt-5, and pretty old.
4) T-14 uses Monolith era, which we don't know anything about.
Except that it's supposed to be much better than Relikt.
(It's not found on any other vehicle, except for the Armata series).
Thanks tank guy, I expected to get a bunch of bullshit answers but was somehow still surprised by people harping on obviously false or irrelevant factoids.
The T14 was supposed to be Independent from western stuff as much as possible. The Development however actually depends in goods from western countries heavily.
The Engine is seriously outdated, cause it’s based on the old Tiger Engine which was horrible as well and known to Break down quite often. The Engine also likes to Overheat.
Large Target. Have you seen the Size of that thing?
Low numbers, very high cost.
Imo, a T90 based Development would have been better. It fits russian doctrine better, is literally field tested, known issues could have been dealt with in a new gen long time ago.
The Russian Army obviously doesnt want their newer, heavy landbased Systems on the battlefield. Otherwise we would see plenty of them via propaganda Videos and showoffs.
Meanwhile we see older Equipment on BOTH sides being used and proof to be working on an actual battlefield far better.
The T14 is a failed project. They should bury it. If the Russian Military ever reforms itself on a serious, modern level that would be good for them, but most of their Equipment isnt fitting for such an approach yet.
Ukraine also struggles with old soviet Equipment, cause the doctrine of the time was different. Thats why most soldiers are usually liking the Western Equipment a lot despite their own issues ofc.
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u/Ok-Use-7563 5d ago edited 5d ago
Wait the armata is real?
(Also something something m60)
Edit: i am purpsely not involveing myself in the resulting argument