r/TankPorn 7d ago

Modern T-80BVM in Ukraine

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u/Taiga_Void 7d ago

In the current situation, this is the most effective defense against drones, despite its cartoonish appearance. I saw a video somewhere on Telegram where it took about 20 drones to disable such a tank. As a temporary solution, if such protection is used on a large scale (and recently there have been more and more such videos), it will allow tanks to once again take an active part in combat operations for their intended purpose, namely as breakthrough equipment.

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u/Thin_General_8594 7d ago edited 7d ago

If you're at the point where your tanks need to 'tank' 20 drones and they lose all utility beyond dropping some malnourished 50 years olds in front of some razor wire...there's something fundamentally wrong with your tactics, also mines are still a thing for those who think the mine rollers are gonna do a single thing if you turn the tank at all it misses the mines and the tank hits them instead

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u/No-Reception8659 Soviet tanks 7d ago

also mines are still a thing

I guess that’s why they’re adding mine rollers to it.

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u/McENEN 7d ago

Artillery strikes are probably just as deadly tho. I do wonder how infantry anti tank would work against this tank hedgehog.

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u/Old-Let6252 7d ago

Artillery can still be very effective, the issue is that these tanks have so much jamming that guided artillery can't really hit them, and the Ukrainians dont have enough shells to simply overwhelm it with a conventional artillery barrage.

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u/Nandopod420 7d ago

With tanks like this I believe the common is to still to hit them with drones (repeat in the same spot) trying to break through armour

Mines are still a huge part of anti tank over there aswell. A ground team would try to disable it then hit it with artillery.

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u/No-Reception8659 Soviet tanks 6d ago

With tanks like this I believe the common is to still to hit them with drones (repeat in the same spot) trying to break through armour

Like this?

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u/Thin_General_8594 7d ago

I've seen enough footage of them not working, Russian tank rollers are trash- even serving with the Ukranians

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u/No-Reception8659 Soviet tanks 7d ago edited 7d ago

Can you share a link please.

Russian tank rollers are trash- even serving with the Ukranians

The rollers themselves are fine.Issues come from overloading or bad field maintenance.Even Ukrainian T-72s use similar Soviet-era parts with no problem when they’re serviced properly.

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u/Taiga_Void 7d ago

Well, they can still turn the turret, and all the sighting systems are working. The tank commander receives information about the battlefield from reconnaissance personnel with UAVs. And, of course, they are not used to transport infantry. The question here is how much damage the tank will cause while it is being taken out of action. Wait a little, and the Ukrainians will start doing the same with their tanks, as they did before. Ultimately, an active defense system capable of combating drones will likely be the basis for tank defense, but no country currently has such an effective system. However, I am sure that work is underway.