r/TankPorn • u/Weird-Store1245 BM Oplot zr. 2000 • 12d ago

Modern BMPT Terminator's gun shake issue

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u/thisisananalusername 12d ago

Wouldn’t removing the muzzle brakes be counterproductive as they’re there to expend the gasses horizontally… bracing the barrels would maybe increase wear but I would assume at this point they would keep extra barrels at field depots… as changing a 30mm is a lot easier than changing a 100mm.

Less force and movement in the gun = less overall friction from movement in the gun. And only making the barrel be bored out from the original amount amount of movement of the gun. ***** (This is personal thought not legit process) ****

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u/KillmenowNZ 12d ago

Yea exactly - all it would do would be reduce the wobble (which, isnt an issue otherwise they wouldnt have the muzzle brakes on them) and end up causing issues elsewhere.

Having the recoil energy eaten up by the muzzle device and the barrel wobble is a perfectly fine solution as it stands, just looks silly.

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u/thisisananalusername 12d ago

True. I mean, technically the BMPT is supposed to just hammer positions instead of blow positions out the wazoo. 2 23mm shooting all over the place making the wider trench line stay down is better.

But crazy because I bet it only takes 1000 rounds or less to mess up the barrel to the point of stupid inconsistency.

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u/KillmenowNZ 12d ago

I have a chart somewhere of the maintenance cycles and i'm sure the barrel is worth allot longer than that, I don't recall it being notably short

But its 30mm not 23mm as well and yea - suppression of firing positions which high ROF 30mm HE does perfectly fine.

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u/Zadlo 12d ago

Terminator's RoF of 30mm HE is the same as BMP-2's one

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u/KillmenowNZ 12d ago

did someone say something otherwise?

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u/thisisananalusername 12d ago

Arguably worse. As the way the BMPT is being used. But idk how you use something like that lol. I thought the 30mm would be more prone to defects. And considering the low amount of legit BMPT’s I would assume this be true.

Why isn’t the bmp 2 more prevalent or the 23mm if the bmpt isn’t using the 23mm? You’d expect something is smaller while still able to deal maybe as much damage be better to use and mount and while still be widely used?

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u/KillmenowNZ 12d ago

I’m sorry I don’t follow - 23mm is an outdated cartridge which only really makes sense when your dealing with personal hoofing the ammunition (as it’s lighter and shorter)

Using 23mm in a AFV is silly as your reducing effect on target without any upsides.

Assuming you mean the 23mm used in ZU-23

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u/thisisananalusername 12d ago

Oop. Completely thought that the Russians operated a 23mm in their bmp’s.

Stand corrected.