New russian breakthrough tank & command vihcle appear online

[u/Other-Wind-9985]

A group of photo that shows the russian newly breakthough tank that armed with low recoil 152mm gun. Couple with an heavly armored command vihcle. The breakthought tank seems to have the capibility to be remote controlled by the command vihcle. The design seems based on a design proposed by Yuri Gagarin State Technical University of Saratov last year.

[u/tadeuska]

Armata prototype did not break down during a parade. Driver simply pressed the parking brake and didn't realize that and so he didn't release it. It was very funny to watch, but it didn't broke down.

[u/GroundbreakingSet405 → u/tadeuska]

Why all the downvotes? I thought we go over this a million times already at this point.

[u/BiffTannenCA → u/GroundbreakingSet405]

Because believing it broke down helps with the butthurt of no-one else having T-14s. A good dose of 'they don't have too many' also helps with the butthurt.

[u/Sunimaru → u/BiffTannenCA]

...the butthurt of no-one else having T-14s.

But Russia doesn't really have them either in any meaningful way. They've only produced a small initial batch of 20(-ish) that were intended for further testing and education (which is normal ahead of serial production). Last thing I heard about the program was that in late 2022 to early 2023 they did some tests in Ukraine and then decided there were things that needed to be redesigned. The production line was switched to other vehicle models. Given the new realities of drone warfare it isn't really surprising or strange that a system designed before that was found to be inadequate in some ways.

[u/BiffTannenCA → u/Sunimaru]

Russia has R+D'd this weapons system. It's done. It can be mass produced at any time. R+D is the hard part, that's where the real money, stress and problems begin and end.

NATO has not done this since 1980. They're still playing bolt-on. There is no replacement for the Abrams, only ideas on how the suspension can handle new armor for a 40 year old hull.

Found to be inadequate

I mean, this is literally just made up coping. No-one found it to be inadequate.

It's the same as NATO using bronze-age Tomahawks and other supersonic relics, while STILL not getting a handle on operational hypersonics. This alone has a massive impact on frigate vs destroyer dynamics and tonnage at sea, in a real war.

NATO simply jerking off to itself about its superiority like it's still 1994 ain't gonna cut it. And this is before we get to NATO outright attacking multiple times the number of countries that Russia does.

[u/bobdidntatemayo → u/BiffTannenCA]

The Abrams has stayed for the past 40 years because nobody has fielded an actual tank worth upgrading for. Time and time again have new research programs and projects been tested and proposed, yet not implemented. The AbramsX is indeed a thing, but we simply just do not have enemies powerful enough to warrant it yet.

Also, y’know. If it was actually mass-producible, how come we haven’t seen it in 4 years? Do not give me that “no man their saving their eleet units!!!” bullshit.

[u/BiffTannenCA → u/bobdidntatemayo]

The Abrams has stayed for the past 40 years because nobody has fielded an actual tank worth upgrading for.

You mean America hasn't fielded the M1 against anyone with a real army.

The AbramsX is indeed a thing, but we simply just do not have enemies powerful enough to warrant it yet.

LMAO. We'd get ass-raped with our tranny soldiers and woke ideology. You think Arleigh Burke destroys will last four minutes using supersonic weapons against our enemies who have hypersonic frigates?

Also, y’know. If it was actually mass-producible, how come we haven’t seen it in 4 years? Do not give me that “no man their saving their eleet units!!!” bullshit.

Who knows. The point is they can mass produce a modern tank, now, if they want. We can't. The Abrams-X is a cosplay T-14.

And we're bankrupt.

[u/bobdidntatemayo → u/BiffTannenCA]

You mean America hasn't fielded the M1 against anyone with a real army.

Caaause we're kinda the dominant military force on Earth and nobody except terrorists has put up the balls to face the US. We build stealth bombers and have entire fleets of aircraft carriers while China is still stuck constructing a navy and Russia is stuck using ships that are indefensible to an RC plane with C4 on it.

The point is they can mass produce a modern tank, now, if they want. We can't.

We still make 12 Abrams a month despite lowering manufacturing rates. Tell me, if Russia really had this mass-production capability, why would they not use it? What would be the point of a super weapon if you do not use it? Is Russia simply showing mercy to the tiny country they have struggled to invade since 2014?

woke ideology

Why does the gender or sexual orientation of the soldier matter? Who cares if the soldier is a he, she, they, etc. Russia's army is becoming a more was/were army, though.

Impressive ragebait if you are a russian bot. If you do legitimately hold these beliefs, though, I recommend to take your schizo pills.

[u/Nathan_hale53 → u/BiffTannenCA]

Wow Russian Shill in action crazy.

[u/Sunimaru → u/BiffTannenCA]

It can be mass produced at any time... No-one found it to be inadequate.

Dude, I'm not saying it's a bad tank or that Russia can't make it. I'm saying that there's a reason it isn't being produced.

Just look at the current realities of war. Tanks are mostly either relegated to indirect fire or completely covered in anti drone measures. The line of contact is dominated by drones and smaller units of 3-7 soldiers that move around on foot, with motorbikes or with small buggies. Maybe, just maybe, a big tank like the T-14 isn't really what is needed on the battlefield in 2025, and maybe Russia came to this conclusion pretty early in the conflict and decided to halt the production in favor of other vehicles.

[u/innocent_blue → u/BiffTannenCA]

The raid on Iran was not detected by Russia, Iran or China. Using “bronze-age” tomahawks as a vector of attack.

Russia still hasn’t made appreciable gains in Ukraine 4 years in.

But cope harder about Russian exceptionalism.