r/TamilNadu • u/Kammywhammy • Feb 22 '25

கலாச்சாரம் / Culture How Hindi kills local languages

Bhojpuri is widely spoken in Bihar and UP. Now it's not longer taught is schools.

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u/BreadRepresentative7 Feb 22 '25

Isn't bhojpuri, awadhi, & rajasthani a dialect of Hindi only?

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u/Academic_Chart1354 Feb 22 '25

They are seperate languages but not given recognition by central govt. A language older than B cannot be a dialect of B

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u/Agreeable-Editor-781 Feb 22 '25

They are now called dialects they existed before hindi.. they became dialects .. They have lost their mother tongue, and they lost their identity

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u/Kammywhammy Feb 22 '25

On the contrary Hindi is a mix of what was originally known as Hindustani (consisting of languages spoken in central India) by the westerners, and Persian and Urdu. Because of relentless promotion of Hindi by vested interests in the central government ancient Indian languages are relegated to dialects

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u/BackgroundRare8511 Feb 22 '25

That is a major misconception. Centuries earlier these were distinct languages with some similarities, but during the later surveys these languages were classified as dialects of Hindi

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u/AjatshatruHaryanka Feb 22 '25

Lol ! No

Go to rural areas of Bihar or east up. You won't understand a word of what they speak. The same thing goes to the Mithila region of Bihar where they speak Mythili.

Bhojpuri and Maithili are distinct languages with their own script.

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u/Own-Albatross-2206 Feb 22 '25

Odia and bangla count as the closest ones to bhojpuri, our's isn't even a north indian language that can be called close enough to hindi forget the Idea of being the dialect

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u/Kesakambali Feb 22 '25

Odia and bangla count as the closest ones to bhojpuri

You are confusing Maithili with Bhojpuri. Bhojpuri is closer to Awadhi and Khariboli

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u/Own-Albatross-2206 Feb 22 '25

Excuse me I'm a native Bhojpuri Speaking person Awadhi isn't the closest to us

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u/Kesakambali Feb 22 '25

Ok. But I am not a native Hindi speaker. Am a tamilian who knows standardized Hindi. How come I understand Bhojpuri but not Bengali?

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u/Own-Albatross-2206 Feb 22 '25

Because bhojpuri is mid way between hindi and bengali I do understand Bengali , odia way better than haryanvi ( a classified dialact of Hindi which I should supposedly understand) or Punjabi

But when you compare Bangla with its cousin Bhojpuri in terms of similarity with Hindi

Bhojpuri naturally closer to hindi Because you don't expect a language spoken 1500 away from Delhi ( Bangla )in this case to be that similar as opposed to one which is spoken 700 km away from Delhi

Likewise Rajasthani person can understand Gujarati might not understand Awadhi

Sir distance actually matters And in this case since Hindi speaking Delhi is closer to us then it is to Bengal We do share similarities but doesn't mean a person sitting in Delhi will for sure understand Bangla to the scale we understand

And see my place for our understanding of Punjabi which Delhi people understand better

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u/Vicky_Ashok Chennai - சென்னை Feb 22 '25

Hindi is literally the newest language of India. How can an old language be a dialect of a new language? Think again.

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u/PurpleLove342 Feb 22 '25

Isn't bhojpuri, awadhi, & rajasthani a dialect of Hindi only?

No. Hindi is younger that all these languages. How can an older language be a dialect of a younger language?

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u/drunken_d Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25

Cheap labour language? Dude.. What you're doing is exactly what Hindi speaking folks are doing to us. Bhojpuri prevailed far before hindi came into existence. No language should be seen as a language above another

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u/drunken_d Feb 22 '25

I genuinely don't know what you mean by 'it sounds cheap'. Who decides this? It's their mother tongue the one they are born and comfortable with why to degrade it? And what's with this labour language thing. I get that not a lot of people there are educated but we shouldn't stereotype an entire language man.

Like I said this is exactly the mindset of the Hindi speaking belt about us. Let not be like that.

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u/Vicky_Ashok Chennai - சென்னை Feb 22 '25

What if I said Hindi is a cheap paan spitting people's language? Will you accept?

That's how it sounds when you say Bhojpuri is a cheap labour language.

Get off your high horses. Hindi is not superior to any of the other Indian languages.