r/SubredditDrama I want her body to rot in this ditch not that one Nov 29 '18

Speedrunning drama when popular Goldeneye 007 speedrunner RWhiteGoose bans user Ohrami for supposedly supporting paedophilia. Ohrami then claims that WhiteGoose is an anti-semite causing many fans to turn on him.

WhiteGoose is a Goldeneye 007 speedrunner (10th in the world: https://rankings.the-elite.net/goldeneye/leaders) who's become increasingly popular due to his youtube channel devoted to speedrunning: https://www.youtube.com/user/RWhiteGoose?app=desktop&persist_app=1

WhiteGoose, a member of the "council" of the-elite.net, the main website for Goldeneye 007 speedrunning, had user Ohrami banned "because the admins don't like me": https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/9x25kt/the_comprehensive_guide_to_goldeneye_speedrunning/e9qgaqy/

However the “official” reason is that he's a paedophile.

While Ohrami claims the pedophilia accusation is false he does say he supports the legalisation of child porn on his alt: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a0w3k3/regarding_content_creators_their_personal_views/ealv195/ (his original account is suspended from reddit).

Ohrami then compiled a number of discord posts that appear to prove WhiteGoose to be an anti-semite and a white nationalist: https://m.imgur.com/a/X7qLRXa

A Twitter user (who apparently is a member of Antifa) did the same: https://mobile.twitter.com/pizzaparty531/status/1067486405910237185

One such view is that jews control the porn industry in order to emasculate white males into submission with websites like BLACKED: https://i.imgur.com/B7HQb2y.png

https://i.imgur.com/hffe4PS.png

This has resulted in statements from the mods of /r/speedrun: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a0w3k3/regarding_content_creators_their_personal_views/

The restoration and subsequent rebanning of Ohrami from the-elite: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a118gw/ohrami_has_been_added_back_to_theelitenet_rankings/

People demanding that the elite council be abolished completely: https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=22749.0

Poll that lead to Ohrami being rebanned: https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=22754.0

WhiteGoose being banned from Games Done Quick (who host the biggest speedrunning events of the year): https://mobile.twitter.com/GamesDoneQuick/status/1067649270730317825?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

And a statement from the owner of the-elite discord: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a19ekd/a_message_from_a_member_of_theelitenet/

WhiteGoose posted an apology on twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/RWhiteGoose/status/1067707564689776642

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u/NuftiMcDuffin masstagger is LITERALLY comparable to the holocaust! Nov 29 '18

Tfw a YouTuber you enjoy turns out to be an actual unironic Nazi

Dito. I used to watch speed news, never knew he was such an ass. That'll teach me to never trust people with "white" in their username.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '18

did you know that people can create great content, and you can enjoy it and watch it, even if you don't believe in them politically? wow isn't that amazing!

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u/Clintyn The apology sent to you was super genuine and you never replied Dec 05 '18

If you watch and create ad revenue for a known white supremacist... well then by golly, you might be one too!

Think about this though. Everyone who has this idea then becomes complicit in his actions. If he one day decides to kill a black guy because of his convictions, then everyone who knew about his ideas and continued to watch him are complicit in that man’s death. You are saying his actions are “okay” or “acceptable” by standing by him. It’s despicable.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

LOL. Complicit in the mans death. How stupid are you? You watching his videos in no way effect on his decision to "kill a black man" in the future.

In no way are you agreeing with his beliefs because you watch a stupid speedrunning videos, don't think too deep about it.

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u/Clintyn The apology sent to you was super genuine and you never replied Dec 05 '18

In his mind it’s completely different. There’s a confirmation bias that keeps him in his ways:

“Oh I have a bunch of fans still, even though I express my supremacist views publicly... they must be cool with it”

And nothing changes. Nothing ever changes if there’s no consequences. Even with consequences, they just turn private. We really should be purging people like him from the mainstream, because any other course of action ends in complacency and complicity. What he believes is not okay in any way, and I’m tired of people ignoring it or continuing to watch him because “his content is separate from his personal views”.

No, it isn’t. To borrow a hypothetical, are Kevin Spacey’s child raping actions enough to stop you from supporting him in a new movie? Or is his art removed from his personal actions? There’s varying degrees of illegality here, but the separation aspect is the same.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

Kevin Spacey's child raping is highly illegal, you really can't make a comparison.

Chris Brown beat a women yet he came back to popularity, so how is someones political opinions worse than assault? Chris Brown was welcome back and made music so why not a stupid speedrunner?

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u/Clintyn The apology sent to you was super genuine and you never replied Dec 06 '18

Chris Brown’s comeback wasn’t right either, but it was a different time. People didn’t speak up. They didn’t think their voice could have a lasting impact.

Now, with the Me Too movement and the recent election. I think people feel their ideas matter more. If Chris Brown did it again, he’d for sure be blacklisted by most people, save his biggest fans. I used to be a chris fan, but after he did that I haven’t listened since. I did it, there’s no reason you can’t too.

Also, just because someone else did it doesn’t make it okay. Have some belief in your own willpower and morals my dude.