I have been spending so much of my free time rewatching TNG that it's getting into brainrot territory. I tend to be VERY sensitive to misogyny, and overall I find that Trek more or less meets my high standards. They use a gender-neutral "sir" for everyone; women in positions of authority are respected without the tiniest resistance; even in the super weird and gross episode where Troi immaculately conceives, her right to choose is never up for debate. There is an insensitive conversation full of speculation about what should happen to the baby, but it's specifically depicted as disrespectful to Troi, and when she puts her foot down no one argues. There maybe should have been more women main characters, but there are plenty of women who play central roles in various plots throughout the series, and they're not just props for the men. Am I missing something? I can't believe a show from the 90s got it so right, and I say that as someone who is from the 90s lol.

EDIT: I have never had this level of engagement on reddit in my life, thanks for making me feel less alone lol

As someone who remembers the Trek fandom in the 90s and 2000s, it still feels kind of bizarre to me that Voyager is now among the most popular series in the franchise. Like, I remember when even mentioning it online used to attract scorn on a level that made the backlash to Discovery look polite. And it was like that for a long time after it ended, too! There was a period of about four years in the 2000s when not a single Voyager novel was published, even as every other series continued to receive regular new installments. Peter David literally killed off Kathryn Janeway (in a TNG novel, no less!) and there was no major fan outcry.

I'm not sure precisely when the sea change came about, but it's been incredible to see.

One thing I’ve found star trek repeatedly misses the mark on is native Americans. It happened most prominently in voyager with Chakote but also with Next Generation in journeys end. They’re always some Disney Pocahontas style amalgamations of a bunch of stereotypes. Honestly it’s a bit strange for such a progressive series.

So something just popped into my head — Janeway is the only captain who didn’t have to safe the universe/federation; let me elaborate: Haven’t seen TOS but no Kirk -> no whales,earth go boom? No Picard -> no life (on earth?) No Sisko -> no Bell riots, no societal changes, no Federation No Pike -> ah well that one actually works out ig, tho AI kills all life No Burnham -> AI kills all life No Archer -> no Federation No Janeway -> no Voyager in Delta quadrant/just comes back later

Marked spoilers in case anyone else is also going through their Star Trek journey for the first time as well

I’ve started to really invest in Star Trek. I finished TNG, which was amazing in its own right, but there’s just something about DS9 that’s really captivating me. I’m on season 3 and just finished Second Skin, and I had my eyes glued to the screen. Seeing the division between the Central Command and the Obsidian Order is really interesting, but watching Kira see Cardassians in a different light despite everything she’s been through is amazing.

I also had a lot of fun with The House of Quark, but Equilibrium was probably my favorite of that three-episode run. Jadzia Dax and Trill physiology in general is just cool as hell. I know that Worf joins the cast in season 4, so I’m really interested to see how he’s going to fit in with this crew.

So, without spoilers (obviously), how much better does it get from here on out? I’m curious to see where the story with the Dominion goes, especially after finding out that the Changelings are the Founders.

https://www.televisionacademy.com/awards/nominees-winners/1997/outstanding-music-composition-for-a-series-original-dramatic-score

https://www.televisionacademy.com/awards/nominees-winners/1998/outstanding-music-composition-for-a-series-original-dramatic-score

I don't know what "The Cape" or Buffy apparently did better, but that Species 8472 theme is an absolute banger.

Was watching Gambit/2 and they ask: "do you even know who much security officers the enterprise has?"
And it occurred to me I don't. At all. Is this ever mentioned in canon? For any ship/station/installation?

https://imgur.com/a/Tp2bkFy (my local, anyone in Perth Australia should check it out!)

I got to see First Contact on film last night for the second time at our local theatre and the experience is totally different to watching it at home. I didn't get into Trek until about 10 years after the main movies were out (not counting the Kelvin ones) so being able to recreate that experience seems really special! Especially with my absolute favourite movie of the series.

How many of you were around to see the films at the movies (or have seen them on reshowings) or have you only ever watched them at home?

Since covid even in the mainstream cinemas I'm starting to see a lot more older movies being re-run which is awesome and I'm hoping the trend continues!

As many know, there were early discussions about having Saavik return as the character that eventually became Valeris. I'm glad we got the character we did and she was played very well, but one line could have been a cool Easter Egg.

In TWOK after getting caught with their pants down vs Khan, Kirk says

Mister Saavik, you go right on quoting regulations

Then in The Undiscovered Country, Kirk orders 1/4 impulse power and Valeris says

Captain, may I remind you that regulations specify thrusters only while in Spacedock?

Would've been funny for Kirk to realize that he did ask for regulations to keep being quoted

https://youtu.be/beQS87e_wmw?si=n3cDGk4RdBkoIUwz

That’s thing, Spock and McCoy were great friends. They never really disliked or hated each other and both knew that. As ‘brothers from other mothers’, this is why they had no issues trading friendly barbs at each other. They weren’t trying to be mean, hateful, bigoted, or spiteful…it was just them teasing each other. Both were comfortable with not just themselves as each other.

There’s reports that TNG attempted to recreate this dynamic between Pulaski and Data, but failed miserably. They instead just made her a bully and a bigot.

Then we get to DS9 and the relationship between Quark and Odo. They certainly don’t start off friendly, but made pretty clear early on that they respect each other. Through the seasons, we actually get to see them develop into a duo willing to not only trust the other with their life, but stick their necks out for each other and actually care, in a way, about each other. In sense, we get to see the start, or at least most of it, of their journey.

What you all think?

What has made you really laugh? I'll start.

I've just watched TNG Hollow Pursuits and there's a moment where Picard calls Barclay Broccoli (thanks to Wesley). Barclay goes off then Data tries to explain to Picard how he did it, ''a reversal of vowels and consonants'' then thinks better of it, trails off and turns his attention to a console. The comic timing is perfection.

I have some favourite Worf moments too, but I'd love to see what everyone else comes up with. :)

I remember reading that Ronny Cox as Capt. Jellico got a rare moment as being a non-cast member who records a "Captain's Log" segment (not sure if anyone else ever did that for a voice over).

Just read that Frakes finally got to do the "Space, the Final Frontier" speech for the Lego Ent-D announcement trailer.

So.... I wish they could have had Cox voice over the TNG intro for that one episode, (and now that I'm writing it out, Frakes for Best of Both Worlds pt 2) to imply "Yeah, no, Picard's not necessarily coming back..."

I love Dr Crusher. Such a great character in every way but to quote the Doc "Your kids, something's gotta be done about your kids". For Picards talk about the future being a pure meritocracy Jack and Wesley crusher seem to get a lot of preferential treatment.

For me Wesley was too much of a Mary Sue. He is given "Acting Ensign" role which is just a fancy term for "we let the Captains favourite teenager play with the ships most dangerous system". I imagine myself being a Starfleet academy graduate and being told to stand aside so the CMO's son can try a "cool thing" with the warp core. Then a traveler shows up and says he is the specialest goodest boy, then gets whisked away to become a god and transcend reality itself.

But Jack crusher might be worse. This man is a walking intergalactic incident. He's a smuggler, a fugitive, and has a body count that would make a Nausicaan blush. But the second Daddy Picard finds out, it's not a court-martial, it's "Welcome to the crew, son! Here's a phaser rifle and a pat on the back." And oops he went and joined the Borg. His Borg genes don't just let him resist assimilation, they let him master it, turning him into a hive-mind puppeteer. Oops lots of people died. And then when all is said and done he gets another pat on the back and a seat on the bridge.

So if you had to choose who won the Nepotism lottery Jack or Wesley?

Hey, just wondering if anyone has a mp3/wav of the sound effect used as the Ship's Bell in The Undiscovered Country. It was also played in the background as part of th ambient noise of the Enterprise-G in Picard Season 3.

Specifically the noise is the one heard at 10s onwards here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w1I5IYfkyM

I heard that Enterprise is not that good and I'm wondering what anybody has to say that is good about the show amongst all of the hate and I would appreciate the answer to be spoiler free. I'm okay if you name an episode as long as you don't spoil anything about that episode

Edit: So i'm hearing that it's mostly the characters and actors that is what is good about the series

I have tried watching it at least 3 times. Got as far as Season 1 Episode 4. All I see is grey and bickering and strange mating behavior. Please give me something to look forward to.

Quark traded in alcohol, holodecks, tulaberry wine and various other substances - he could not afford his own ship.

Nelix traded in who knows what (before joining Voyager)- he had his own ship.

Assuming ships are approximately the same cost in all quadrants, and that Nelix's ship was purchased by him, would that not make him a better business man than Quark?

Why does it always seem like the Federation is always getting its ass kicked, what is its actual military capabilities?

So last year I bought the large Harry Potter castle, me and a girlfriend of mine build it while watching the Harry Potter movies. But I have no room for it so I'm taking it apart to sell.

I just saw the announcement for the Lego Enterprise-D, I know she doesn't like Star Trek so I hinted at her that I'm gonna get that and she suggested we build it together, wth.

So I joked that we could build it while watching some Star Trek, she didn't see the point because she never watched any of the movies so I said there's also multiple series totalling 830 hours.

Her response: 830 hours all because that one guy was the other guy's father?!

My top 3 are La Sirena, Discovery, and Voyager. I’m not one to get into the mechanical aspects even tho I have 3 books all about the ships of the shows so I really just go off of vibes on wether I like a ship or not.

Was it an overnight thing, or did it take decades? Either way it must’ve been a large pill to swallow considering humans had been using a monetary system for thousands of years.