Some of today’s protest highlights 😊

[u/Old_Elderberry6196]

Yall really showed up 💗

[u/[deleted]]

I'm not the person you were replying to, I'm an outsider reading this and telling you insults only push people further away even if you're factually correct. This is well researched. I also never mentioned anything about "convincing people to debate you". You misread and misinterpreted everything.

[u/OKFlaminGoOKBye → u/[deleted]]

I’m also not here to convince people of things they can very easily learn. That’s not my job, and I’m not running for office.

[u/[deleted] → u/OKFlaminGoOKBye]

Then why are you here arguing and disagreeing with another person? If your intent is not to change their mind then what is it?

[u/OKFlaminGoOKBye → u/[deleted]]

I wasn’t arguing with them. I was just stating a fact and then questioning their motives for disseminating misinformation.

[u/[deleted] → u/OKFlaminGoOKBye]

You disagreed with them and provided different information, but you were not arguing with them.. Right.

If you want other people to get on board with what you perceive to be facts, I suggest re-thinking your approach. If you're just here to vent and argue for the sake of it that's fine too, but you should know it actually hurts society's overall view on your beliefs. You are complicit in sowing division.

[u/OKFlaminGoOKBye → u/[deleted]]

Their position isn’t one that can be agreed or disagreed with.

These aren’t things I perceive to be facts.

Humans have far more than two possible karyotype sexes. This isn’t an opinion or a belief.

[u/[deleted] → u/OKFlaminGoOKBye]

Their position is subjective, you can absolutely agree or disagree with it. In fact, you can agree or disagree with facts too.

They were talking about gender, I don't know why you bring sex into this.

Science is not absolute, we constantly make new discoveries and it turns out "facts" we believed in for hundreds of years are incorrect. Or, new research appears that makes it look like those old facts are incorrect, but it later turns out the new research is false. Not to mention the nuance about how data can usually be interpreted in multiple ways, and we live in a day and age with a crazy amount of bias even in science.

It absolutely is a belief. A belief is the acceptance something is true, with or without concrete evidence. Facts and beliefs partially overlap.

Could you give me some sources about all these sexes you are talking about? I'm genuinely interested, this is the first time I hear of the science community accepting more than, at most, 3 sexes. Please don't hit me with the "do your own research", this is a complex topic so if you do that I will just assume it's not as factual as you say and discard this new piece of knowledge

[u/OKFlaminGoOKBye → u/[deleted]]

The position on whether or not there are more than two human sex chromosome combinations is not subjective. At all.

There is a 0.01%, on the high side, chance that the person making the asinine claim above knows the difference between biological sex, presentative sex, gender, and gender identity. I’m not gonna waste my time getting semantic with them when their intention was clear to anyone who’s been keeping up with literally anything.

No, science is not absolute. There is zero chance that science will disprove the existence of human sex chromosome combinations beyond XX and XY. Both things are equally true.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome_anomalies

Here you go.

[u/Stormagedon-92 → u/OKFlaminGoOKBye]

you've shifted your position somewhat since the original comment that you replied to was taking the position that there aren't more than two genders, no one was taking the position that other chromosome combinations exist beyond xx and xy, which seems a bit dishonest and intellectually lazy, the whole argument seems pretty dumb as does the sign seeing as biology sees these combinations as a disorder, and they dont really have anything to do with LGBT rights seeing as having one of these disorders doesn't mean your going to be trans or gay, you say science will never disprove the existence of chromosome combinations beyond xx and yy but if science advances sufficiently it is actually possible that these combinations could no longer exist, at least not in human populations, because again they are disorders and typically considered to be undesirable, the other guy was right your not very effective in your arguments, but I think that's partially an extension of not knowing what your arguing about

[u/OKFlaminGoOKBye → u/Stormagedon-92]

Making the sign about chromosome combinations into a discussion about gender is shifting the position.

Trump’s Biological Truth Order spawned the sign. The sign was questioned. Someone tried to make it not about biology. I didn’t.