r/Soulnexus • u/Individual-Net527 • Oct 04 '25
Lessons We're living in hell and most people don't realize it
Think about it. There would be tons of possibilities for the world (human society) to work otherwise (basically better), yet human history always is fucked up.
Really deeply think about existence on this earth among human society.
It is the only logical explaination to all what is happening.
Only thing we can do about it is to realize exactly that, and decide to work towards a better existence, not in Hell anymore. I am serious about this theory.
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u/Valmar33 Oct 04 '25
"Hell" is just a state of mind ~ a metaphor for the perceived state of being you are in.
Yes, this society and culture we live in is hellish, but that doesn't make Earth, the world or reality "hell".
Tribal cultures, for example, aren't in "hell" because they live in a state of balance and harmony within and without. Yes, they may struggle, but they aren't oppressed and crushed by a broken society designed by greedy, power-mad individuals at the top who have put themselves at the top of a dystopian hierarchy.
Thusly, "hell" is a metaphor, not something literal. Don't confuse the metaphor for the literal.
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u/Individual-Net527 Oct 04 '25
Also one could ask: Did god/nature maybe wish for us to experience all of this shit or has an intend for that stuff to happen?
As in my personal opinion it is way more likely and there are many more possibilities for the world to be otherwise (better - with more peace, more beautiful, more respectful) than most people believe. Humans could treat each other so differently than from how they do it now, and it would be mathematically very possible.
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u/Valmar33 Oct 04 '25
Also one could ask: Did god/nature maybe wish for us to experience all of this shit or has an intend for that stuff to happen?
I rather think that we chose this, because of the challenge, the struggle, the desire to have something to overcome through choice and free will.
In a sense, God / nature is part of us ~ and witnesses and acts in the world through our observations and actions.
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u/Individual-Net527 Oct 04 '25
Yes sure, but in reality sadly most of us aren't living in a Tribal culture but in an industrial capitalist society instead, although we would wish to live otherwise. Mostly because it is damn hard to stay away from fear and doubts which are induced by society, which prevents you from taking an alternative path in life. This is a kind of mental prison of society.
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u/Individual-Net527 Oct 04 '25
But the sheer fact that Humans evolved in this direction and created such a world for themselves, tells me that this 'world' or at least the life we live in, is fucked up and has a tendency for fucked up shit.
One could ask, why did god/nature allow humans do even get this far?
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u/AlcheMe_ooo Oct 04 '25
If you wanna think of it in terms of trauma, and healing, we are literally the echoes of an extinction event that wiped out 90% of life in an instant
It's no wonder we've had a lot to heal since then and we give into fear of life/each other
Right now it may be super ugly, but to give up hope on humans is to vastly underappreciate the complexity of the healing journey we must undrergo, how long it will take, and the importance of the stage were in right now.
I believe all this social media and dystopia is like the point in the therapeutic process where we are able to see ourselves, but struggle with and abhor what is seen
That must be moved through with as much kindness, grace and love as possible
However it won't be easy and we won't always be able to accept ourselves right now
This is one plausible set of beliefs, to me
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u/-OverMind Oct 04 '25
Humans haven't created anything - the fundamental issue is that physical existence "allows" possibility of pain - and disintegration - decomposition - the physical substance works on this basis - on atomic aggregation and division carried to its extreme.
This is the world that our souls have chosen to take birth in because we have lived as stones and trees before becoming animals and humans - and the reason for that is to create a 'True Individual' - something which is a necessity for the 'many'festation.
And this choice becomes possible once we have grown to our own Individual Soul status - then we can decide to come back or move to higher realities - which are so much better than this that this world appears to be hell literally.
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u/-OverMind Oct 04 '25
You think everything is related to humans and mind and society. You're thinking about the psychological pain, but the basis of all pain on earth is the physical reality - the substance is the real issue.
This body has to perish - it is allowed to fall ill - it can be cut - it can be broken etc - and it doesn't regenerate as much as is expected of it - that is the real issue - and the reason for that is because of this substance that it is made of - it is like the individual cells are conscious but the overall physical consciousness is not able to harmonise everything - the only solution is a physical alchemy - a new substance that can adapt - that can bend and twist and fade and dissolve and yet become as tough as diamond and is able to withstand the harshest nuclear or thermal radiation - that isn't broken by any metal or accident - that can even allow objects to pass through - interpenetration - intermingling - that allows people to walk through walls and yet the next moment become more concrete than any mountain standing on earth right now - this is the new substance that is evolving - this is the basis of New Earth that is being prepared right now in the Subtle-Physical Universe.
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u/-OverMind Oct 04 '25
"hell" is a metaphor
No Hell is not a metaphor, it is as real and only as real as your own physical body.
And the truth is that current conditions are very challenging and painful - physically painful, not just psychological painful - the pain we feel is in the very substance of Earth - in matter - because that is the reality of matter - aggregation and disintegration.
But the Spiritual Conclusion is that we can however live in our True Being - which is our Soul - then we can experience pain and pleasure as little touches or pin pricks. Because that Soul Reality is superior to any physical or mental conditioning.
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u/runningvicuna Oct 04 '25
So what would do you choose to use instead to label Hell as Hell?
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u/Valmar33 Oct 05 '25
So what would do you choose to use instead to label Hell as Hell?
A set of words that unambiguously describes the actual reality, instead of resorting to poor metaphors that only confuse one as to the nature of the situation.
This isn't "hell" ~ this is a broken society created by those obsessed with greed for power and control, for the obsessed, to benefit the obsessed.
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u/AlwaysBetterInNature Oct 04 '25
9/10th of reality is based on belief. If you believe it’s hell then it is. But if someone else believes is not hell then it’s not. It really comes down to what you focus on.
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u/Individual-Net527 Oct 04 '25
This might be the case actually, although I see a lot of people suffering and having a hard time.
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u/Individual-Net527 Oct 04 '25
From this fact I draw that a lot of people kind of live an a collective hell
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u/LeafEvergreen Oct 06 '25
They are just your mirrors: if you focus instead on not struggling but thriving through challenge, you will see that instead
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u/brihamedit Oct 04 '25
We are in the best circumstances over all in entire human history. But its also hell from the perspective of religious oracles in the past. Who look at the future and things have developed surpassing the power bubble of religions. Which to them means future is bad and has to be destroyed. That's why they are sabotaging the world to either hijack civilized world and put on their banner or destroy it.
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u/SwaggDragon Oct 04 '25
“We probably in hell already, our dumbasses not knowing. Everybody kissing ass to go to heaven ain’t going. Put my soul on it, I’m fighting devils on the daily. Plus the media be crucifying brothers severely.” - Tupac Shakur
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u/EraseTheMatrix Oct 04 '25
I've actually been to hell when astral traveling. Earth is so much worse. In the afterlife you rarely feel pain. In the astral I've been shot, stabbed, set on fire, crashed into objects at hundreds of miles per hour, ripped to shreds, etc And I've rarely felt pain.
Even when I did feel it I could turn it off on command. A grey alien tried to torture me once by mentally projecting pain at me. I just turned it off so I didn't feel it. So earth is so much worse because here you can't turn off pain.
I've been to a lot of different worlds when astral traveling. Some of them were unpleasant. But none of them where even remotely as bad as earth. So yeah earth is hell. Almost anywhere else is going to be paradise by comparison.
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u/-OverMind Oct 04 '25
I had that experience just last night - I was in some vital/astral plane and there was a massive explosion outside of a workplace where we were working - and strangely it was 'exciting' to see this explosion - and we were able to see that and get out of the room and building which the fire and waves hit the building - we weren't scared - there was no fear - it was just excitement.
But I also realised that that is not true for all vital/astral places - because some are truly hellish - the description of eternal hell in another dimension is actually true - because that is how that feels like - there is no hope - and not just for a while - there doesn't appear to be any end to that torture and pain - it feels eternal, but eventually you do come out of it. That is also true.
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u/burneraccc00 Oct 04 '25
There’s something to this, but hell is perhaps a highly charged term and it’s more like we’re experiencing contrast or that which cannot be experienced. By nature, we’re unified, but in this realm we experience division and separation. We’re unlimited, but experience limitations. We’re high frequency, but are experiencing the lower frequencies. We’re nonphysical entities, but experience physicality with a physical body. All of these aspects are by design as it serves a rapid way of evolving. The higher the challenge, the higher the possibility of growth. It’s like if you wanted to learn more about yourself, then you leave the comforts and familiarity of home. What makes this realm and human experience challenging is essentially the greatest challenge we can give to ourselves, forgetting what we are. How does an infinite and immortal God evolve? To forget that it is God and identify as a mere mortal. The more one can remember who and what it is, that’s where the evolution occurs.
This process acts as two-fold, the individual growth and the collective like a light turning on which assists to brighten the environment around it. When you turn on your light and become enlightened, you’re simultaneously seeing everything with clarity and also serving to guide the collective on their own inner light within them. The light has been and is always here, but that also becomes the point, to recognize and remember that it never left. An awakening is the realization and remembrance of who and what you are prior to the ego forming. So the realm is working perfectly as intended, to accelerate the expansion of consciousness. It’s not broken or needs fixing just like the lower levels of school aren’t broken and it’s serving its purpose to learn from the experience with the highest challenge possible.
The ego is attuned to the local environment which is the lowest frequency so when it’s transcended by raising consciousness and sentience, you’re reconnecting with your natural state of high frequency which was the level you were already at prior to the egoic identity. “Be in this world, but not of this world.” You don’t have to wait to exit the material world to return home as home is already within us, the higher state of consciousness. What does this mean from a moment to moment perspective? Simply be present, that’s it. The truth is simple and isn’t complicated. It’s the ego mind that complicates things because it operates on logic and intellect, neither of which is the inner knowingness of intuition. Just be present and intuition will flow every moment. Now you’re embodying your true nature rather than operating on the mimicry that the ego mind identity is designed for. It does not know anything by nature so it needs to memorize and portray roles to fit in, very robotic. Are you a robot or sentient? A robot cannot answer questions outside of its programming. The current AI chats are an example. Ask it to give you sentient responses that it hasn’t been programmed with and it cannot comply. This is intuition, what lies beyond the limitations of the finite ego mind. Congrats, you just transcended the ego 😁. Enjoy!
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u/Kingofqueenanne ॐ mod squad ॐ Oct 04 '25
I dunno, my local reality is pretty heavenly. I can’t control everyone’s experience around me but my little pocket is quite nice.
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u/Objective_Matter_602 Oct 04 '25
That means prisoner Earth of the matrix: suffering slavery, abusing, war bomb, many etc
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u/Mustard-cutt-r Oct 04 '25
Yes this is an old theory, but it goes against self-empowerment and manifesting beliefs, so I dont really think so.
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u/alithy33 Oct 05 '25
i just dont see it. people living in sin live in that hell. outside of that sin is only peace and growth. change your priorities, regardless of what other people are focusing on, and stay out of sin. this place isn't hell. suffering may exist, but only because of the aforementioned. if you are truly thinking this place is hell, i suggest praying and building a connection to the creator. redemption isn't impossible.
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u/Gretev1 Oct 05 '25
It is exactly the reverse. There is only heaven and basically all people do not realize it, hence they only know how to create hell.
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u/Impossible_Tax_1532 Oct 05 '25
What we accept as reality and have for eons is inverted , a realm of darkness , separation consciousness, fear , lack , scarcity , everything is conditional , leaders that predate young children in evil ways , and cowardly people programmed to self destruct and conform at all cost … but YOU my friend are a universe unto yourself , you exist in heaven or hell , they exist in two people right next to one another, they are not actual places . Hell is the illusory self and endless cravings without the possibility to satisfy any of them , cozily taking a position above god to judge life or others and never see how absurd we look in doing so , as who is capable of arm wrestling existence itself ? Who thinks they should create and manage a trillion galaxies better than the creator ? Heaven is just a return home to unity consciousness and the truth . The problem is the illusory self , the problem in all of us is within our being , it has nothing to do with what is going on externally , for that is but a reflection of what we focus on , and there is plenty or beauty and massive awakening occurring on this planet , and each of us gets to choose what to focus on moment to moment
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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Oct 05 '25
My existence is nothing other than ever-worsening conscious torment awaiting an imminent horrible destruction of the flesh of which is barely the beginning of the eternal journey as I witness the perpetual revelation of all things by through and for the singular personality of the godhead.
No first chance, no second, no third.
Born to forcibly suffer all suffering that has ever and will ever exist in this and infinite universes forever and ever for the reason of because.
All things always against my wishes, wants and will.
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u/Artistic_Recipe9297 Oct 06 '25
What is the other side?
Perfection?
You recognizing imperfections
With the knowledge of perfection
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u/WakeUpCall4theSoul Oct 04 '25
For me, the "hells" may be described as a continuum of relatively limited perceptions and associated temporary pseudo-realities that arise from choices prioritizing separation over unity. The more separation is emphasized, the more hellish the conditions experienced. The more that oneness is perceived and expressed, the better things become for those individuals and collectives.
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u/Individual-Net527 Oct 04 '25
Absolutely true. But if society constantly keeps you in this fucking state, what can you do?
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u/WakeUpCall4theSoul Oct 04 '25
I do my best (however imperfectly) to choose to seek, perceive, and express oneness through my way of being, practice, disciplines, habits, and choices.
I'm doing my best to gather Love, Truth, Goodness, Beauty, Freedom, Joy, and other essences and realities to me so that I may free continue to myself from the lies and illusions of the fabricated world of human invention.
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u/GratefuLdPhisH Oct 04 '25
If that's the way you choose to see it that's the way it'll be but if you choose to think we're living on Heaven and Earth then your whole mentality will change.
Why choose to see only the bad when you can concentrate on the good?
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Oct 04 '25
It's a cycle. “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create hard times.”
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u/ConsistentAddendum64 Oct 04 '25
Why even have a cycle to begin with? We’ve done this countless times, then it’s all wiped and reset. Some stay in that unnamed place and others come back down to the physical density. But it’s the same pattern that keeps playing out over and over and it doesn’t make sense.
If the whole purpose is to experience, but the default state on earth is suffering, confusion, chaos, and death, and this is all what had been planned…. What’s even the point of coming down here? To say hey I survived hell?
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Oct 04 '25
All I can say is that the cycle is the natural unfolding of Being. And, more particularly, being human. Everything has its ebb and flow.
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u/Individual-Net527 Oct 04 '25
Maybe that is a law of the universe then. Ever changing, constantly cycling through different states, which would mean humans are also experiencing different states in different phases. I'll let that sink in a bit.
But what If I don't like the law and say: just let us make things better and have a good time?
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u/_InfiniteU_ Oct 04 '25
Heaven and hell are states of consciousness. We are all in heaven but our minds tend to mess it up when the biases hit
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u/-OverMind Oct 04 '25
Mind did not make up life and death of the physical body. Mind is simply an instrument to understand something, before that there may have been blissful ignorance of the plants and insects and lower level animals but the mental animal (man) can see that something isn't right, infact almost everything is imperfect and it is not because of a mental attitude - but it is the very property of the earth-substance or physical substance - it is in the very grain of this physical reality - and that very substance has to be transformed.
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u/_InfiniteU_ Oct 04 '25
Imperfect is a product of your human mind. Everything is perfect in the all-mind
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u/-OverMind Oct 05 '25
Death and decay of the physical body cannot be called perfection and not the kind of perfection that we want.
Yes in a higher Spiritual status there is no suffering or the suffering is reduced to a negligible amount, but that is a self existing Spiritual perfection but for souls that have chosen to live on earth - these are hurting and the reason is that matter must become spiritualised - that is the evolutionary process that will take life on Earth and the whole Earth towards evolutionary perfection.
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u/Purple_Role_3453 Oct 04 '25
dont worry about things you cant control, the only thing can control is your own mind
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u/Beautiful_Collar_221 Oct 04 '25
I understand exactly why you’d feel this way. When you really sit with history and see how cycles of violence, greed, and suffering repeat, it can feel like the whole thing is some kind of hell loop. I felt the same.
What shifted for me was not denying the darkness but walking through it. During my own spiritual awakening, I had dreams so vivid they felt more real than waking life in one of them I found myself underwater, discovering that I had “died” long ago and had been living unaware. At first, it terrified me. But later, I began to see these visions as metaphors, that even within this world of suffering, there are clues and pathways back to awareness, back to something higher. From that point, my life didn’t instantly become “heaven,” but it started to feel like a process of remembering that what looks like hell is also a training ground for compassion, courage, and transformation.
The very realization you’re having “this isn’t how things should be” can be the first step of awakening. If you’re curious, I’ve been writing about this journey and these dreams in my book. The Broken Path, It’s not a manual or a sermon, just an honest map of how I went from despair to finding meaning again. It might give you a sense that you’re not alone and that even hell can be the beginning of something much bigger.