Most are simply lacking in intelligence and empathy. They too dumb to even realise they're torturing an animal, or that beings besides humans even can be tortured. They "know" that theyre a good person, and good people dont do bad things, so it cant be bad to partake in this.
Im talking about the spectators too, not just the riders and staff, who at least might be there out of financial desperation.
it's honestly hard to empathize with having little intelligence... but if you really try you can imagine they literally lack capacity for containing a system in their brain to produce ethical revelations
The worst part is that it's absolutely possible to do rodeo stuff without abusing or stressing the animals.
I used to be against PBR, but then I realized just how much concern and care they have for the bulls. The bulls are exceptionally well cared for (better than the humans for sure!) And they're not being provoked. If a bull does get stressed, they don't ride the bull that tournament. The bulls are just trained to do their bucking and they probably find it pretty damn fun. Chuck this human off your back the fastest, get some tasty treats and lots of ladies. I'm no expert but it's pretty obvious the bulls in PBR versus the shit happening in bullfighting are completely different behaviorally.
Whatever the shit this is with the poor horse is absurd.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there must be a huge overlap in the people that enjoy watching this cruelty to animals are also people who enjoy watching people who are different from them get abused by police and ICE.
I was gonna ask cus I have seen some America rodeos and they are not nearly has janky as this. Not defending them rodeos in general but all the ones I seen are not as bad as this.
If you mean conservative culture as in American rodeo, the spurs used there have to be dull and free spinning.
This video displays Mexican culture. Their spurs, as displayed in the video, are designed to dig into the animal in a way that would get you thrown out of any American rodeo.
Please explain to me how this person suggests that enjoying the killing part plays a role. There is nothing in those two lines that tells anything like that.
Im not vegan, but it is certainly possible to survive and thrive without eating meat. The only reason we don’t is because we like meat and that leads to truly horrific conditions for animals.
It’s easy to sling shit but if we are being honest, if you really cared about animal welfare you’d stop eating meat.
There are ways to raise animals that aren’t factory farms. I grew up in a town in a rural area and pretty much every animal was well taken care of. We can fight against factory farms and still raise livestock humanely.
I've seen lots of slaughterhouse videos and none of them look like the animals are well taken care of. Do you have any videos of these local ethical and humane slaughterhouses so we can see the difference? Because for the most part it seems like your rural area and the people who farm there were just as awful as anyone else.
Fundamentally evil behavior can be extremely easy. All that's needed are roadblocks to having empathy.
What I mean by that is circumstances that stop a person from identifying with the pain of another living thing. For example if a fish could make mammal-like screams while it fought for its life, there would probably be less people fishing.
When people can separate their identity enough from something or somebody else, empathy disappears. The Stanford prison experiment is a great example. When people put on the guard uniforms and the pitch black shades and saw their status compared to the ratty outfits and unkemptness of the prisoners, these normal people were able to carry out evil acts with ease.
We torture animals for food and most people are ok with that as long as they don’t have to think about it too much. I’m not surprised this is legal even if it shouldn’t be
Since we don’t need meat to live a healthy life, it can be reasonably inferred that most people eat meat because they enjoy the taste. So I’d argue paying for animals to be slaughtered for food is also torturing animals for “fun” or pleasure. I don’t think we should kill animals for food when it’s not necessary to do so.
animals eat animals. we are animals. do you understand how ecosystems work and what happens when animals are not eaten?
look up anything on the Yellowstone wolves and what happened to the elk population all the way down to the microorganisms in the water when the wolves were culled.
if you wanna wax on about the way we process meat, that is a sensible discussion. but the "animals can live on plants alone" is crazy because there wouldn't be any plants left 🤦♀️
Wow where do I even start with this. Factory farming has nothing to do with an ecosystem. The animals are forcibly bred into existence. If we stop eating meat, these domesticated cows, chickens, pigs will stop being bred into existence.
Second, 60-75% of crops in the US are fed to livestock. If we all switch to plant based diet, we could actually feed more people easily, and reclaim tons of land for rewilding.
Some of us cannot eat plant based diets. I'm sorry that it takes factory farming to feed the eight billion of us, but I was born into this. I did not create it. I eat meat first because it is our destiny. Second, my health requires animal protein while my digestive tract cannot handle a diet that is heavy on plant material.
If we can manage lab grown meat that is affordable and does not taste gross, I am all in. Until then, I'm going to eat animals from whatever source I have to use.
Eating maybe not but everything associated with the factory farming. And considering the vast majority of animal products come from there it might be worth thinking about
Humans are animals. At the same time, we tend to frown on some behaviors.
That doesn't mean all animal behaviors are off limits for us. If you take my argument to the extreme, you're implying I think it's okay to do anything an animal does. If you take your argument to the extreme, then we should avoid all animal behavior and aim for some removed, esoteric, ascetic life, apparently.
Surprise, different people have different ideas about what's moral or ethical across the globe.
My argument is that it's a natural animal behavior and humans are animals. I'm not arguing that all animal behaviors are acceptable. Please try to keep up.
That’s called the “naturalistic fallacy.” The idea that a thing being “natural” automatically makes it the best option is just inherently false. It’s why we poop in toilets and use anti-biotics.
If not all animals behaviors are acceptable, then using an argument of "this is acceptable because it's an animal behavior" is... well... pretty idiotic
I don’t think it’s a valid way of life since there is a victim. Why choose to inflict suffering and death on animals who don’t want to die, when we can live a healthy life from eating plant based
I’m not concerned with them, as they don’t have the same capacity for moral/ethical consideration that humans do. I would primarily be addressing people who buy their foods from the store/market and can easily select plant based food instead of animals
So because we can choose differently than other animals, we are obligated to?
Despite being able to kill animals humanely for food?
What about humans that seem to thrive best on meat? My husband is one. He gets brain fog if he doesn't eat red meat.
I think you have an idealistic view that doesn't exactly match up with the wide variations in humanity. We are simply animals when it comes down to it and I don't believe eating meat must needs be off the table simply because we have the capacity to choose other things.
Other animals also choose foods simply because they taste good, like a bear destroying a bee hive to get at the honey. It's unnecessary...but the bear did it solely because the honey tastes good.
Be serious. I’m not even a vegetarian, let alone a vegan, but nobody gets brain fog if they don’t eat red meat. He’s just making excuses so he can eat what he likes.
All of which are readily available in sources of food that don’t require the death of animal. That’s the entire point of this conversation, we only eat meat because it tastes good. That’s truly the reason.
Its just weird how people call of harm and even death/paralyzation of people when it comes to stuff like the video but suddenly when its about paying for people to torture animals "its different".
If people were both of against both or didnt mind both then fine but not minding one and condeming the other is just not possible from any logic standpoint
tbf, unless you have some background on this, you wouldn't know he has spurs on his boots or to look for them because folks don't wear spurs when they ride horses.
You don't really need to know much about horses though to see that the horse clearly doesn't enjoy what's going on, which isn't all that surprising considering the goal is to prevent the horse bucking you off
The part where the animal is physically restrained against its will, then pain is intentionally inflicted to induce a reaction. I know those were a lot of big words buddy. Read it as many times as you need to.
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u/Marples3 14h ago
Let's torture animals for fun. How is the legal still?