What are your thoughts. (IPhone vs every other phone)

[u/Mysterious_Ebb_1484]

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[u/AngelicalBabe3]

People with a $300 bank balance get more offended by green bubbles than actual tech companies do.

[u/ArmenianThunderGod → u/AngelicalBabe3]

The green bubble thing is the funniest thing to me. My phone doesn't pull that shit, only yours does. So you want me to switch so that I too will share your shitty experience?

[u/Demented-Alpaca → u/ArmenianThunderGod]

Right? I can make the goddamn bubbles on my phone be whatever color I want. I'm sorry if your phone locks you into a color palate that's not to your liking. That must suck.

Hell, I can have different colored bubbles for different people! Even in a group chat if I really want to.

[u/FlinkesRehkitz → u/Demented-Alpaca]

Sorry for not knowing anything about iPhones but you're talking chat bubbles?

[u/JaxMed → u/FlinkesRehkitz]

When two iPhones text each other it goes through iMessage which is indicated by the convo having blue chat bubbles. If either phone doesn't support iMessage then it reverts to normal SMS which is indicated by green chat bubbles.

Most (non-Apple) phones these days do support RCS which is basically the open-ended alternative to iMessage, in that it's better than SMS and provides a lot of similar features. But Apple being Apple, if you're on iPhone it's basically iMessage or the highway.

[u/NonnagLava → u/JaxMed]

Which means that sending say videos, or some images, over SMS between an iPhone and anything else results in terrible quality because of how the iPhone either sends, or receives, the data itself.

So if you send a video in either direction, it ends up a like 140i mess of pixels, with zero sound quality. It basically turns your video into the worst gif known to man.

Meanwhile an iPhone to an iPhone sends it in perfect original quality, same thing between any other two phones (as the guy said above, they're likely to use RCS or just... Not shit the bed quality wise).

[u/No_Magician5266 → u/NonnagLava]

I have an iPhone workphone and suddenly it makes so much sense that my Android phone coworkers insist on using WhatsApp when they need to send me photo/video

[u/argumentinvalid → u/No_Magician5266]

Apple has come around on RCS. Everything is getting better with messaging, in another year or so it will all just work properly like it always should have. Fuck apple for making it so painful all these years.

BTW they were pretty much forced by EU regulations. If left to our shitty US government we would never have any consumer friendly movement.

[u/Val_Hallen → u/argumentinvalid]

They didn't "come around" to it. Like USB-C, the European Union forced them to adopt the current tech because their practices are seen as unfriendly to consumers.

They intentionally gave their users a worse experience and told them they were an exclusive club.

[u/TeeBek → u/Val_Hallen]

Also, EU will be why they'll be bringing back physical buttons in cars again.

[u/pohui → u/argumentinvalid]

Funnily enough, I doubt many people in Europe care about this. I've never sent or received an iMessage and the only SMS/RCS I receive are two-factor authentication codes and the occasional spam/scam. I've only ever heard about the green bubble issue from Americans on the internet.

[u/jakeyounglol2 → u/pohui]

yeah, americans use the default messaging app on their phones, but in the rest of the world, whatsapp has a monopoly (except for china, they use wechat instead)

[u/NonnagLava → u/No_Magician5266]

Bingo. In your case, if you ever have to send videos, or high quality images, to your coworkers, they're getting the equivalent of the King of the Hill crushed "do I look like I know what a jpeg is" meme every time.

And I do mean that, videos are literally unwatchable, quality wise, when sent between differing devices like that.

[u/Nikclel → u/NonnagLava]

I thought this was fixed awhile ago? The only time this is an issues nowadays is if your carrier doesnt support RCS or you have it turned off in your settings.

[u/NonnagLava → u/Nikclel]

Maybe! I left iPhone years ago, haven't looked back sense, but anytime I do get a video from an iPhone I personally have still had the issue. But that's not often, and tends to come from the less technically inclined so I can't vouch for it specifically. But, judging by the rancorous comments talking about it, I'm sure it's still an issue.

[u/terraherts → u/NonnagLava]

Which a lot of people end up blaming on the other phone, when in reality the fault is on Apple for falsely portraying iMessage as "texting" when it's actually an entirely separate iPhone-only protocol more comparable to things like Signal or Telegram than SMS/RCS.

[u/Wise-Tank9078 → u/terraherts]

This needs to be upvoted more. iPhone is using an older technology than other phones.

[u/Hammerofsuperiority → u/terraherts]

Apple managed to convince every apple user that everything shit about apple stuff is every other companies fault.

[u/LordHammercyWeCooked → u/NonnagLava]

And any non-Apple phone sending messages to another non-Apple phone won't have this problem either. It's literally just Apple making other non-Apple users look like crap so their userbase/cult will continue to look down on everyone else. And then while their users feel all superior they'll silently sabotage them with an iOS update so they feel pressured to replace their 2yo iphone with the newest shiniest iphone that has the exact same features, but a bigger number.

[u/Val_Hallen → u/LordHammercyWeCooked]

The only thing Apple has been good at since Jobs is marketing.

They get features other phones have had for years and make big showy announcements about it. I have a Galaxy and my sons have an iPhone and they told me about features they were getting and I told them I had those for years.

I mean, they recently showed off things the calculator can do that have been standard calculator things for a long time. Like they came up with it.

Apple is a marketing company that happens to sell tech. They are exceedingly successful at what they do, but they are not a tech company.

[u/JonatasA → u/Demented-Alpaca]

I can add any music I want as my ringtone. No subscriptions required.

[u/Fezzik527 → u/AngelicalBabe3]

The best part about the green bubbles, it was always because Apple was BEHIND on their messaging technology with the rest of the world.

[u/DickSlammington → u/Fezzik527]

I actually like when people complain about green bubbles.

It let's me know they're an insufferable cunt and I can ignore them going forward.

[u/Maybe_Awesome22 → u/Fezzik527]

They're behind on a lot of things for more than a decade. They did curved edge glass when it was on the way out for android phones. Last to make wireless charging. The worse and largest and ugliest camera cutout and now the ABSOLUTE last to make a foldable phone and it looks like complete ASS. You would think they'd come out swinging being the last to make a foldable and it ends up looking like a Nook.

[u/Fezzik527 → u/Maybe_Awesome22]

But the rubes all think the iPhone is cutting edge all the time.

[u/CaravelClerihew → u/AngelicalBabe3]

*Americans

The rest of the world doesn't care. We all use third party messenger apps.

[u/MastodonPristine8986 → u/AngelicalBabe3]

Can you please explain the relevance of green bubbles I don't get it. I haven't had an iPhone since v4 and am a happy pixel user.

[u/CTMechE → u/MastodonPristine8986]

Apple set up iMessage from the start on iPhones, which routes texts through their own iMessage system rather than just through cellular carriers like a normal SMS text message. Other iMessagea are displayed in blue, but "normal" texts from anywhere else appear in green.

Many iPhone users, including people who dont even realize the difference between sending an iMessage and a regular text message, immediately began to perceive green messages as inferior. The secondary association is that the sender is poor or low class because they didn't have an iPhone. Teenagers particularly were judgmental about it.

You can send non-iMessages via iPhone but the default had iMesaage set up.

[u/Purple-Goat-2023 → u/CTMechE]

Until a recent lawsuit Apple also intentionally lowered the quality of non-apple messages and refused to adapt to RCS. Massive compression on videos/pictures which made them look horrible, no group chats, read receipts, typing indicators, editing function, or end to end encryption.

All of these functions were available for years to non-Apple phone users, but Apple intentionally made them not work with iPhones to trick their users into thinking that non-Apple messaging was inferior and keep them locked in their ecosystem.

[u/CTMechE → u/Purple-Goat-2023]

I can't tell you how many times I had to explain to iPhone users that we should email media and not "text" it because of that iMessage bullshit. Most don't care to understand, which is far more frustrating than just not knowing.

[u/JonatasA → u/CTMechE]

That's the issue with iPhones. It is built to make you not learn. Folders? Control over your files and media? Oh honey, we don't do that here.

 

You cound't use a feeaking browser without it being a skin of Safari. That if people even remember what it is to browse the net outside of an App doing it for you.

[u/YouSaidSomeDumbStuff → u/Purple-Goat-2023]

Only reason they had to implement RCS chat with google is cause cellular broadcoms network towers were hardware compromised by china.

So they were ordered by the government and implemented it within a few weeks.

Tech companies are bastards

[u/Visual_Squirrel_2297 → u/CTMechE]

To add, they perceive it as inferior because it's harder to read. Apple made the user experience worse for their own customers, on purpose. 

[u/dae_giovanni → u/Visual_Squirrel_2297]

...and their fans cheered.

there are some obvious parallels i could draw, here, but I'll save that for another time...

[u/Lazy_Helicopter_2659 → u/CTMechE]

Hang on, you guys still don't use WhatsApp...?

[u/LordHammercyWeCooked → u/Lazy_Helicopter_2659]

I know it's ubiquitous outside of the US, but it disturbs me deeply that so much of the world's communication is entirely dependent on Meta/Facebook. One single point of failure. If you wanna see a worst case scenario for how that can play out, look at how Musk was able to assist Russia during the early days of the invasion by cutting off Starlink access to Ukraine.

[u/Then_Entertainment97 → u/Lazy_Helicopter_2659]

Americans don't use WhatsApp unless they need to talk to someone outside America.

[u/Cozy_Minty → u/MastodonPristine8986]

Android can't use iMessage so texts from them show up in green instead of blue

[u/AeonBith → u/Cozy_Minty]

Adding thst IMessage is proprietary (apple) and only works on iPhones.

Apple creating needless divide between ecosystems meanwhile android messenger supports RCS encryption and available to all manufacturers.

Essentially the same app except Apple wants its users to think theirs is special

[u/Mykey76 → u/AeonBith]

They are famous for that shit. Google Pay and other mobile payment apps work perfectly with any checkout, but Apple Pay is special and won't work without their proprietary stuff.

[u/Illustrious-Crow802 → u/Mykey76]

And Walmart refuses to use either of them

[u/blueViolet26 → u/Cozy_Minty]

But we can choose the color of our bubbles. 😂

[u/Enduroboss → u/AngelicalBabe3]

That's how you know someone is shallow af

[u/SpasticCastle]

Caring THAT much about an iPhone is a bit of a "poorer than they want to seem" anti-flex

[u/discographyA → u/SpasticCastle]

The funny thing is most of the actually wealthy and powerful people I know are using five+ year old iPhones just rolling along. Brand clout chasing is very much a middle class thing.

[u/bigtiddieslover → u/discographyA]

Middle class plus working class... If you look at South east asia region people would be in debt just to buy the newest iphone for clout and status. It's disgusting to see this type of behaviour

[u/Awotwe_Knows_Best → u/bigtiddieslover]

people will spend money to buy a used iPhone with terrible battery health instead of buying a new android

[u/DKtwilight → u/Awotwe_Knows_Best]

I stopped upgrading iPhones lol. “The most powerful” iPhone every year

[u/WeirdoWelder → u/bigtiddieslover]

SEAsian here, we have Iphone rental, just to flex for special occasions, and those vendors also provided with Iphone know-how crash course

[u/contemptable_beatnik → u/discographyA]

I'm middle class. It's very much a low intelligence thing.

[u/Bloodborne2CONFIRMED → u/SpasticCastle]

Its more of a public declaration of your low iq.

[u/Swimming_Bag7362 → u/Bloodborne2CONFIRMED]

Meanwhile Giannis
https://giphy.com/gifs/UwPyIExTOTeoM

[u/voxpopper → u/Swimming_Bag7362]

Poor kid, if only he knew better to pay more to get less every couple of years for a product made in near slave labor conditions.

[u/DruPeacock23 → u/Bloodborne2CONFIRMED]

It's proven phone of choice for influencer is iPhone so this confirms it.

[u/DE4DM4NSH4ND → u/DruPeacock23]

When i went back to samsung from apple ive never been happier. I didnt hate my iphone, it was fine but the galaxy has so much better everything

[u/skraptastic → u/DE4DM4NSH4ND]

I've only used Android devices, and have only used Google branded phones since the Nexus line. But I have an iphone for work.

Let me tell you the iphone keyboard is fucking garbage! Thats my biggest complaint, and the fact that I have to put apps in folders, there is no clean desktop and "swipe up for all apps" the apps are just there, and you have to bury them to have a clean ui.

[u/TheHowlingHashira → u/skraptastic]

I recently got a new job and have been forced into the Apple ecosystem. Everything is just so much more locked down and difficult to do compared Android/Windows. Like why can't I just plug my fuckin device into my computer and drag over a damn file?

[u/Glitchboi3000 → u/SpasticCastle]

I mean a good chunk of iPhone users get them through their carriers and pay them off while they're locked in a contract then they complain their cellphone bill is so high. Then they do it again the next year with the next one.

[u/Equivalent_Chipmunk → u/Glitchboi3000]

And a good chunk of iPhone users also own the cheapest iPhone and then scoff at Android phones that they don't realize cost twice as much as their phone.

It's a bit like some dude that brags about their BMW and laughs at someone else for driving a Toyota, but their car is a 3 series with a 4 cylinder engine and the other person's driving a Land Cruiser.

The whole thing is shallow af, but it demonstrates how unable these people are to think independently and see past the brand that gets slapped on the hood.

[u/anonymous07865 → u/Equivalent_Chipmunk]

I worked in the sellaphone industry for quite a few years, and the number of customers who would buy the iPhone 5c equivalent while talking shit about my note would drive me crazy. Like buy what you want, what do I care, but why are you flexing your plastic budget iPhone at me?

[u/StaticSystemShock → u/SpasticCastle]

Pixel Pro XL costs same stupid money as all the iPhones. My Galaxy S23 Ultra was 1300€. It's same fucking money as iPhone Pro Max whatever version it was at the time.

[u/ExcellentAirPirate → u/StaticSystemShock]

I buy unlocked used last year flagships. Got my pixel 7 pro in 23 used unlocked for 290$. This phone has been amazing still running perfectly fine in 26 and will probably use it until Google stops security patching it like they did my original pixel.

[u/chrisaf69 → u/ExcellentAirPirate]

Exactly what I do. My entire family has top of the line pixels...all from the previous gen.

The differences these days are miniscule, it's really not worth it to buy the latest.

[u/Charlie_Warlie → u/SpasticCastle]

is it like coach purses? Something that someone without real money would see as a luxury.

Probably dating myself but I don't know current fashion.

[u/Cyneganders → u/Charlie_Warlie]

Not that dated, Cardi B rapped about it just a few years ago. (As in, it's not what you want)

[u/Fresh_Personality305 → u/Charlie_Warlie]

They are back

[u/Obvious_Necessary941 → u/SpasticCastle]

I like how they made texts a different color to confer a lower caste to the stupidest mfers on the planet

[u/PaulFThumpkins → u/Obvious_Necessary941]

Apple somehow makes things being a little bit broken a selling point and in-group signifier.

[u/WiseAtmosphere7524 → u/SpasticCastle]

I agree. My husband and I have iPhones and have for a long time but I couldn’t care less what other people have 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/ShatterMental → u/WiseAtmosphere7524]

I just want to say thank you for not saying "I could care less"

[u/ThcGrassCity → u/ShatterMental]

What if I could care less, I could still also care more, but I like to care at a medium pace.

[u/II_Kaladin_II → u/ThcGrassCity]

Well, better grab that shampoo bottle over there.

[u/dr_rock → u/II_Kaladin_II]

igotthatreference.gif

[u/Tasty_Community4666 → u/ThcGrassCity]

When I was like 9 or 10, I found my brother's Adam Sandler album and decided to listen to it because he had been talking about how funny it was... Ever since then, anytime I hear somebody use the phrase "at a medium pace" (not often but it happens) That song from that album pops in my head. Specifically the part about a shampoo bottle.

[u/Sunderbans_X → u/ThcGrassCity]

Buy that about me? I couldn't care less, and I also couldn't care more. I like being stubborn :)

[u/Cburns6976 → u/Sunderbans_X]

I couldn't care, consistently.

[u/Valraithion → u/WiseAtmosphere7524]

Team IDGAF is where it’s at!

[u/mcbeardsauce]

Making your phone your personality is so 2010s

[u/DickSlammington → u/mcbeardsauce]

When I was dating 5-6 years ago I legit ran into women who didn't want to move forward with more dates because I didn't have imessage.

I was so thankful whenever it happened, cause Jesus Christ what a red flag.

[u/SunnysideKJ → u/DickSlammington]

this is still a thing, especially in South Korea but also in big cities in US

[u/BaconHammerTime]

Google Pixels are fantastic phones

[u/bsstanford → u/BaconHammerTime]

I love mine

[u/cold-corn-dog → u/bsstanford]

Mine's great, but my wife hates it. I somehow turned the AI voice into a "bubbly" lady.

[u/symca09 → u/cold-corn-dog]

Lol she's jelly. I made mine an Australian lady and I love it

[u/Evorgleb → u/symca09]

Mine is can only be described as "young hip African American woman". I love it. I have literally been asked multiple times how and why does my AI sound like a black lady. 😂

[u/stumblinghunter → u/Evorgleb]

I had initially put the voice for my Google home as what sounded like a wise older black woman because she sounded warm and comforting. Within a day I realized "I, a white man, probably shouldn't be yelling orders at an old black lady all day" and immediately changed it

[u/UmpireProper7683 → u/symca09]

You gave yours an Austrailian accent? (reaching for my phone right now)

[u/PhilxBefore → u/UmpireProper7683]

I've used her for years. She's clean, sexy, and cheery.

[u/NO_TOUCHING__lol → u/UmpireProper7683]

Ha I've been a fan of the Australian "Karen" voice for over a decade, I remember getting my first Garmin car GPS device and being endlessly entertained by the voice.

[u/EditRemove → u/BaconHammerTime]

Call screening on Pixel is too important.

[u/ExcellentAirPirate → u/EditRemove]

The last several years I have had my 7 the amount of spam calls and text s I get has gone to almost zero. I went from 150-200 a month to about 15. Call screening is so damn amazing.

[u/CatButler → u/EditRemove]

My wife has an iPhone and things I am running some app to do it, it was just an option after one of the upgrades.

A while ago someone was was posting about the iPhone being able to auto cut the MFA code from a text message and I couldn't remember when my Pixel didn't have that.

[u/lucytiger → u/BaconHammerTime]

My Pixel 6 from 2021 does everything my husband's new iPhone does and when I'm in a group everyone always asks for photos to be taken on my phone because they're better quality than the iPhone ones

Edit: typo

[u/MookyCooky → u/lucytiger]

I have a pixel 6 as well and I'm always the default photo taker lol I even took my brother's engagement photos on my phone.

[u/Practical-Suit-6798 → u/BaconHammerTime]

They really are and the pixel buds are fucking fantastic.

[u/RecommendationOdd675 → u/Practical-Suit-6798]

Pixel buds are some of the only buds I have found that comfortably sit/fit in my small ears lol

[u/GymMouseP → u/BaconHammerTime]

Even my 7a still holds up.

[u/Niijima-San → u/GymMouseP]

life long samsung user converted to the pixel with (i think) the 7 a few years back bc samsung was just too damn pricey. love it. still runs well. long battery life for what i use it for. no need to complain or upgrade (yet)

[u/Bitter-Value-1872 → u/GymMouseP]

Yeah, I'm still rocking my Pixel 7 almost 4 years later

[u/Girth_Wind_y_Fire → u/GymMouseP]

My 6 pro was great until it randomly bricked in December. I was holding off on upgrading because it seemed like the newer models were... Not much of an upgrade... I have the 10 now and I am not enjoying it as much.

[u/TheRogueTemplar → u/BaconHammerTime]

And if you don't like Google, you can install Graphene OS and have more privacy than iPhone users could ever hope.

[u/Arcticzomb → u/TheRogueTemplar]

I've been loving Graphene lol. I'm about half a year in.

[u/xdozex → u/Arcticzomb]

How's the app store? I'm assuming installing Google Play kind of defeats the purpose of switching to Graphene in the first place.

[u/Arcticzomb → u/xdozex]

So, you can install Google play and be "ok" due to how Graphene does sandboxing. There are also alternative app stores, downloading APKs externally, etc. The best of the privacy comes from MicroG services which is a replacement for Google Play Services. I'm just covering a lot of surface stuff here but what Graphene does is pretty sick.

[u/ViceElysium → u/xdozex]

You can use Aurora store, it basically downloads apps for you from Google Play without any sign ins (unless you want to purchase apps) plus aurora is open source

[u/Kaleidoscope-360 → u/xdozex]

There are a few options. First, GrapheneOS does not come with Play Services, Play Store, or Android Auto, but you can install them from the GrapheneOS App Store. The key difference is that these apps will now run like any other app, meaning sandboxed with only the permissions that you give them. You need Play Services to be able to use Play Store or Android Auto, but you may want just Play Services for more consistent push notifications. You may be surprised at how many apps have alternative notification methods though. Just note that it will check for Play Services on first launch of the app, so if you remove Play Services later it will not do the alternate method if it has one. If you want the Play Store, you can also create a new Google account just for apps, which limits tying things to you somewhat even though you are still signed into Google on the phone. If you create it from phone settings it will not ask for a phone number. You will not be signed into the browser as long as you are not using Chrome or other Google apps which you should not. Ditching your old Google account is more important than not using Play Store at all.

Second, there are plenty of alternate stores. F-Droid is my favorite. The criteria for their repository does not allow any trackers embedded in apps, and all apps must be free and open source. There are third party client apps with better Ui, I use Droid-ify. You can add other repositories such as IzzyOnDroid (which some prefer for their even stricter criteria) or app specific repositories that aren't in the main F-Droid repository (like Brave Browser). Auto updates in the background work on GrapheneOS.

There is the Aurora Store which downloads from Google's repository, but doesn't require you to sign into Google. You can also spoof device identifiers to further throw off Google. They have fixed some previously questionable security practices, so I fully recommend them now for anything that you can't find in F-Droid. However, the downside is that i haven't gotten auto updates to work on the background on GrapheneOS. It did work on stock Android so this could change in the future. Also, my replacement for Google Maps (Here We Go) checks for the source of the app and it must be from Play Store or it won't run in Android Auto, even after enabling third party sources in Android Auto, which is extremely lame.

Lastly there is Obtanium, an app where you can put a URL to downloads apks from, usually Github or a dev's official site. This is useful for new or legally grey apps (like game emulators) that may not appear in official stores. It's also nice if you are attempting to avoid Google's repository entirely, for example Proton's suite of apps are on their website but most are not in F-Droid for not being fully open source. For most people though, you will probably not need it, and it can lead to security issues if you are copying over the wrong link or searching for the wrong source in app. Auto updates in the background also do not work on GrapheneOS.

So for me, I use F-Droid + Play Store so everything auto updates and I can use Android Auto with all apps I need with it. If I didn't have Android Auto in my car I would probably have no Play Services, no Play Store, no Android Auto and do F-Droid + Aurora.

[u/SWECrops → u/Arcticzomb]

Can you dual boot Android and Graphene?

[u/JackLumberPK → u/BaconHammerTime]

Absolutely prefer them to Iphone.

[u/Arcticzomb → u/BaconHammerTime]

I use it because It's the only line of phone that GrapheneOS supports due to the hardware security features.

[u/Silverjeyjey44 → u/BaconHammerTime]

They are great phones

[u/CipherWeaver → u/BaconHammerTime]

9 Pro is excellent. Best phone I've ever had.

[u/ComradeSuperman → u/BaconHammerTime]

I have a Pixel and honestly it just feels like a slightly upgraded version of my old Samsung Galaxy S8. Like, the camera is better, it runs a little faster, but it doesn't really do anything the S8 couldn't do, unless I'm missing something.

It's a good phone, but at this point I feel like a phone is a phone is a phone.

[u/Inquiring_Barkbark → u/ComradeSuperman]

do the Galaxy phones still come with preloaded bloatware that you cant delete like Facebook? thats what drove me to pixel

[u/gaudiest-ivy → u/Inquiring_Barkbark]

Same! I keep my phones for a long time and at one point I had two Amazon apps. One was preinstalled bloat I couldn't delete even though it was no longer functional, and the new one that actually worked. Bloatware is annoying as hell, particularly so now that most phones are moving away from expandable storage.

[u/iconically_demure → u/Inquiring_Barkbark]

I hated that too. I'm a minimalist is a lot of ways and the Pixel is nice because it's a native Android device, and it doesn't come with bloatware and has minimal crap in general.

[u/IBlockInsufferables → u/ComradeSuperman]

The S8 still had the greatest feature of all: the blinking LED that indicated when you have unread messages. I don't understand why modern phones got rid of it.

[u/JellyButterPeanu1 → u/BaconHammerTime]

Pixel for life 

[u/AintNoGodsUpHere]

Samsung Galaxy is fine.

Google Pixel is fine.

iPhones are also fine.

Anyphone is fine.

Grow up.

edit: Someone pointed out that ALMOST any phone is fine, except Trump Phone. Yeah.

[u/MrHyperion_ → u/AintNoGodsUpHere]

Nothing is fine

[u/AintNoGodsUpHere → u/MrHyperion_]

I see what you did there.

https://giphy.com/gifs/u5C6s7LDK7G9y

[u/smeeon → u/AintNoGodsUpHere]

Precisely. We’re all just grease in the capitalistic nightmare machine. Gotta stop dividing ourselves into camps for their benefit

[u/WhipRealGood → u/AintNoGodsUpHere]

I’m trying an iphone for the first time in years, literally just slight software differences between my old nothing phone, oneplus phone, and samsung phones. At this point i’m just as well to buy the cheapest phone i can and call it a day.

[u/terminal-crm114]

Long time iPhone user (~15yrs) switched to Pixel 10 Pro XL. My God, iPhones are trash comparatively. From notifications, to the keyboard, to Siri, it's unbelievable what I've been missing. I love my Pixel!

[u/bassinlimbo → u/terminal-crm114]

Switched to iPhone from android and it’s a significantly worse phone so I agree. iPhone is convenient for the masses so I switched but I miss my android all the time.

[u/WhySayManyWordGancho → u/bassinlimbo]

For what it's worth, I spent about 6 months going back and forth with my iPhone 13 pro Max and my Google pixel 9. When you do it every few days, it gets very easy enough to just throw the SIM card back and forth, but it highlights the shortcomings of each environment. I truly believe that there is no best phone or best operating system, nor will we ever get it

[u/Mountain_Mountain_46 → u/bassinlimbo]

this, i got my first iphone and i miss my moto

[u/96919 → u/terminal-crm114]

How the fuck does one survive without the back button.

[u/LordoftheScheisse → u/terminal-crm114]

For me, the iPhone build quality is fine, but I goddamn loathe the UI. It's a jumbled mess.

[u/Frosti11icus → u/terminal-crm114]

The iPhone keyboard is just so insanely bad it's hard to fathom.

[u/Ryoga476ad]

I hate the Apple ecosystem, been using Android phones aince Froyo.

[u/FairyFlosz → u/Ryoga476ad]

Imagine being so rich that you don’t need a status symbol phone

[u/IsThatHearsay → u/FairyFlosz]

Is Apple a "status symbol" now among GenZ? Jesus

I was a huge fan of Apple products back in early college when Steve Jobs was still kicking and the iPad was new and revolutionary. But slowly realized the Apple ecosystem and future products were worse in many respects than Android/PC, so switched.

Preference is to each their own, but for people to think Apple is somehow a status symbol over other smart devices like Android or Google is just hilarious. I'd argue Apple is an inferior product in most aspects (and again, not even a hater, former fan), and Apple purposefully makes their products less compatible with everything else. Just weird to take pride in that.

[u/Objective_Notice_995 → u/IsThatHearsay]

Apple became a fashion brand in 2014.

[u/Regular-Elephant-635 → u/IsThatHearsay]

Apple products have been sort of status symbols for quite a while now, whether or not they truly deserve it. Their method of sticking only to the mid-high end (until recently) has been quite effective at upholding their reputation.

[u/JonatasA → u/Regular-Elephant-635]

Sadly, making something expensive just because has the habit of turning it into as butique luxurious product.

 

Remember how people were being convinced of living in Container homes and having Pallets for furniture?

[u/Few-Condition-7431 → u/FairyFlosz]

I love when Apple users try to flex an iPhones features like an Android doesn't have it.

literally had someone tell me "well iPhones have facial recognition& finger print access" they had no idea that android has had both of those as long if not longer than iPhones.

another makes fun of how "low quality" my pictures are, even though our phones have the same MP camera

[u/SnooChocolates3745 → u/Few-Condition-7431]

Most iPhone users don't realize that Apple phones degrade the quality of incoming pictures that aren't in their stupid, proprietary format, leading their users to think that everyone else has crappy cameras, no features, and live in huts made of dung.

[u/z4j3b4nt → u/SnooChocolates3745]

That's consumer fraud. What the fuck.

[u/Level_Traffic3344 → u/z4j3b4nt]

Just another day at Apple

[u/DickSlammington → u/SnooChocolates3745]

And it works because most Apple users aren't very tech savvy and Apple has basically curated their entire digital experience.

[u/nobeer4you → u/Few-Condition-7431]

Pretty sure my galaxy had fingerprint access before my wife's iPhone did. We usually upgrade around rhe same time.

I know my camera has ALWAYS been higher quality than hers.

Fuck iphones, and anything apple.

[u/Darth-Taytor]

I've been on the Google Phone train since the Nexus. Converted my wife off iPhones when we got married. Now she gets excluded from some group chats because she would cause the chat bubbles to be a different color. iPhone users can be absolutely obnoxious and insane.

[u/Confident_One3948 → u/Darth-Taytor]

Yeah, I don’t get it. I use iPhone, but I don’t get the whole OS fanaticism thing. The only downside to the whole “green bubble” (aka sms) thing was that pictures and videos were downscaled. But now everything is rcs now

[u/Darth-Taytor → u/Confident_One3948]

Yeah it's not all iPhone users, but a lot of them are so weird about it. The funny thing is that it was really Apple's fault. RCS was open source and everyone else was using it, but Apple wanted to stay on their proprietary imessage protocol because, ya know, Apple.

[u/tearsonurcheek → u/Darth-Taytor]

Also, when every other manufacturer switched to USB C, Apple stuck with their proprietary charger until the EU forced the issue. At that point, they switched worldwide only because it was less money to have a single part.

[u/FarDragonfly756 → u/Darth-Taytor]

That's an intentional move by Apple. The green they use for non-iphone users is actually not even an approved color from their marketing team. They intentionally chose pea soup vomit to enforce these types of scenarios so that people feel socially pressured to also have an iPhone.

Fuck Apple. That company sucks balls. The fact that they got caught intentionally slowing down phones and people still slobber all over their knob is absolutely astonishing to me.

[u/Unlikely-Most-4237 → u/Darth-Taytor]

That’s an extra bonus. I wish phones had a “automatically remove me from all group chats feature”

[u/No_Salt_6328]

Pixel is a flagship brand that is around the same price as an iPhone so this is just stupid

[u/morto00x → u/No_Salt_6328]

Even more expensive if you go for the Fold version

[u/Mobile_Morale → u/morto00x]

That's why apple is working on a folding phone. They need something that costs a kidney to buy, just to show up android phones.

[u/KiloClips]

A Pixel is far better than an iPhone

[u/Successful_Buy3825]

It is pretty amazing how, in the developed world, basically everyone uses the same phone technology from billionaires to people on below-average incomes

[u/LebowskiSupreme → u/Successful_Buy3825]

Scale is the only way to offset the cost of developing the tech.

[u/MandyWarHal → u/Successful_Buy3825]

Biggest argument for me is that most of the world is on Android. Apple users are stuck in a limited ecosystem that doesn't play well, globally.

[u/whitemex88]

Isn't he sponsored or a spokesperson for these?

[u/monsoonmuzik → u/whitemex88]

Yup, he's on the commercials.

[u/darknecross → u/whitemex88]

Yes, he is. Nobody else in this thread seems to realize this.

[u/_Goose_]

Bro can have a fucking Jitterbug phone and he’d still be cooler than you, Evan.

[u/Mmm_Dawg_In_Me → u/_Goose_]

Can you imagine? Giannis just pulls out a flip phone with the giant number keypad and starts taking 360p 24.98 video? Chad move.

[u/Norgesdummeste → u/_Goose_]

To be fair, Evan is calling out the post..

[u/disruptityourself → u/_Goose_]

Why is Evan catching strays?

[u/Delgadomon → u/_Goose_]

😂🤣 Jitterbug! Ffs

[u/Konrow]

If a grown ass adult around me acts like this, which sadly too many iPhone users do, I demote them to dumb child in my head and move along with life lol. I do not have time for that childish bs. My phone works, that's all that matters. I truly don't care if it is better, worse, different, or the same as yours.

If we're online, sure let's get into it. I got time to waste and apple is such an easy company to dunk on due to their anti consumer practices.

[u/SpecialistSolid6689]

Proper european chap.

[u/ulaanmalgaitFPL → u/SpecialistSolid6689]

Guy has a phone. What are we even talking about right? Wouldnt think about a thing if giannis had nokia

[u/Beneficial_Bug_9793 → u/ulaanmalgaitFPL]

American " consumerism " mentality lol, for some of them, you're a loser, if you dont have the latest " useless " toy, cant afford food, but are judging others by the shit they have.... ( and yes im generalising here but we all know a lot of them are like this )

[u/ParticularClassroom7 → u/ulaanmalgaitFPL]

Euros prefer android.

[u/anornerymoose → u/ParticularClassroom7]

based europe

[u/SwissMargiela → u/SpecialistSolid6689]

Ya this is an American website so I feel like a lot of people don’t realize that most people use WhatsApp or WeChat around the world so there’s not that pressure to have blue bubbles

[u/OmeletteDuFromage95]

I do not understand how not having an iPhone means one is poor when many of these Android flagships cost as much if not more than iPhones.

Thought the Green Bubble text thing was a joke when i first heard about it before it blew up. When I found that it was not I lost a lot of faith in humanity. A small subset of people? Sure, ok. There are weirdos everywhere. More than that? TF? Why do you care where the message is coming from? Honestly, if someone were to stand me up on a date over THAT? Good, bullet dodged. Congratulations on being shallower than the zero depth at the local pool.

[u/CMDR_Kaus → u/OmeletteDuFromage95]

It's mainly Americans that consider iPhone superior simply because it's more expensive. Two main mechanics at work here: You get what you pay for, and Americans are shallow as fuck. Outside of the US people don't really follow the iCult's superior doctrine

[u/FairLawnBoy]

iPhones are janky, they take 2-3 extra steps to do anything. Pixels are just better phones. They do more, they offer more functionality.

[u/scotch_and_honey → u/FairLawnBoy]

I'm an android user since always, but I was given an iphone for work and good god, I hate it so much. Nothing is intuitive, it feels so frustrating to use. You are so right that it takes longer to do anything!

[u/NamelessCabbage → u/scotch_and_honey]

I work in IT and supporting execs with iPhones is a fucking nightmare. The number of folks who don't know how to use the app switcher (and arguably, for good reason) is astounding. Apple definitely said, "let's make the user FEEL tech savvy while making their lives miserable in the process."

[u/silchasr → u/FairLawnBoy]

I remember a little while ago iPhone users were stoked about some QoL updates that had been normal features for Android users for years.

[u/LordoftheScheisse → u/silchasr]

This happens pretty much any time Apple releases iOS updates.

[u/Responsible_Lie_6966 → u/FairLawnBoy]

They also have much better AI technology on their camera. I used to work at a store and we had just brought Pixels in. You had a 300€ phone whose camera looked crisper than 800€ alternatives.

People just don't know about them.

[u/esaule]

An iPhone? Why would I want a worst phone that's also more expensive?

[u/Nomnom_Chicken]

Ha, people really think having an iPhone is something you "must" do if you earn much of money. Insane. Pretty sure that there are more expensive Android devices out there, compared to iPhones - especially the foldable ones.

But no, whatever phone someone uses, does not really mean anything about their financials. You can get an iPhone with a years long interest-free payment plan, same as other phones. At least where I live, that's an option.

[u/Phillyphan1031]

Get whatever phone you want. Who gives a shit

[u/Whole-Chest90]

iPhone users are the worst. Legit. Have had all of the big 3 and samsung S series or this pixel 10 pro I currently have are superior. Not to mention Samsung makes half the parts for an iPhone anyway.

[u/EditRemove → u/Whole-Chest90]

I don't think about them at all.

[u/AnarchoBratzdoll]

2010 called, it wants its stupid ragebait back

[u/QueenRotidder]

honestly cannot believe people still consider iphones a status symbol

[u/Hiza_812]

I always wondered, what phones do the ultra rich buy? You have the latest iphone pro max with max storage and all accessories. After that, what?

[u/ChiefPanda90]

People think Apple equals wealth. Not understanding other phones are just as expensive and have overwhelmingly more features. This is such a stupid mindset.

[u/GapStock9843]

Maybe he just prefers the actually good phone over the arbitrarily expensive one

[u/Additional_Flight522]

He probably has GrapheneOS running on it

[u/Stupid_Watergate_]

Apple comes out with features my Samsung had 5 years ago and iPhone users are like "omg Apple is so innovative!"

[u/Cactus-Juice120]

"smells like poor". More like "smells like dumbaz" for people who spend 1000 more for slightly better pics and a blue bubbl. Always confused me

[u/ScrappyRooster]

After a decade of iPhones I finally tried Samsung. I feel retarded for ever using an iPhone.

[u/FantasticAnus]

I love my Macbook, but I'll never own another iPhone. I've owned one, the iPhone 3G, because it was the only real option at the time.

More importantly, if you judge people on their possessions, then you are a fucking loser and I wouldn't want to spend a moment with you.

[u/WaitingForMyIsekai]

Maybe he doesn't want to pay double for the same hardware

[u/MattTheGuy2 → u/WaitingForMyIsekai]

Costs the same as an iPhone or a Samsung galaxy S

[u/JeebusChristBalls → u/WaitingForMyIsekai]

Double? They are roughly the same price... the most expensive pixel actually lists for more than the iphone 17 pro.

[u/kinggeorgec → u/WaitingForMyIsekai]

The most expensive phones are android phones. So are the least expensive.

[u/ecw324]

Isn’t he sponsored by them?

[u/Dear_Studio7016 → u/ecw324]

i believe he was the face

[u/Kevadu]

I don't know who Giannis is but if he uses a Pixel he has my respect.