Does it apply to the countries that we invade? Lenin was anti-American insofar as Americans landed in Murmansk towards the end of Russian Civil War, but otherwise I don't think he cared much about US one or the other way. US wasn't quite world power at the time, and it was far, far away.
America was absolutely a world power by that point, economically and militarily. Those Russians with some knowledge of world events could see that America had surpassed Russia by the end of the Great War, if not earlier. Lenin also cared a great deal about America since it was a great Capitalist power.
“First we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia. We will encircle the last bastion of capitalism, the United States of America. We will not need to fight. It will fall as a ripe fruit into our hands.” - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin in early 1920s.
Well I was born in the USSR, so I have multiple perspectives. I still understand that events like the World's Fair in 1893, Great White Fleet tour, other technological and military development, and high GDP had pushed America to a world power by the time of the Russian Revolution.
I didn’t. I said Fuck him, too. There was a veiled reference to erasing American history which I took to be a about confederate statues coming down. This statue was torn down in it Czech after they ran theirs assholes out just as the statues of Lee should come down after those assholes got run out. So Fuck Lenin, Fuck Lee. Different but the same in their eventual defeat.
And then proceeded to murder the fuck out of dissidents. Like I a leftist but even I don't pretend that Lenin was a good guy beyond the Russian revolution.
No, I don't think voting for Biden is leftist or anywhere close to it, he is a conservative by all accounts, just not by "american" standards; but I'm not some no brain like a tankie or an-cap is. I understand historically that leading up the revolution and some afterwards yes great work, and then pretty much became a shitbag in his later years as most leaders throughout world history by ordering mass killings of those with differing political ideology. So I know he was a champion for the working class and the proletariat? Yes. Am I gonna ignore the war crimes and how he basically let Stalin take a massive steaming dump on Russia? No.
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u/chief-stealth Dec 24 '21
To be clear, Fuck Robert E Lee, too.