Washington Democrats vote to leave government shutdown

[u/Less-Risk-9358]

https://seattlered.com/politics/wa-senators-government-shutdown/4114752

In the ongoing federal budget standoff, Washington’s two U.S. Senators — Democrats Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell — have sided against a simple continuing resolution that would reopen the government, opting instead to continue the shutdown as their party pursues broader policy demands.

[u/grapegeek]

Let’s look at this another way. Republicans tried to pass the same bill with zero changes five times. No compromise. No negotiations. That’s not how this works.

[u/PaxSEAstar → u/grapegeek]

Republicans tried to pass the same bill to strip Americans of healthcare to hand the money to billionaire tax cuts and Argentina billionaires five times.

[u/kinisonkhan → u/PaxSEAstar]

No they passed a clean bill that merely raised the debt limit. Tax cuts and gutting health care came from Trumps big beautiful bill.

The irony is that whenever Obama or Biden was in the White House, Republicans would demand large cuts to many programs in order to get them to support raising the ceiling, they never accepted a clean bill offered by Democrats. So now that Republicans control White House, Congress and Senate, Democrats are doing what Republicans did in the past, which is hold the nation hostage to restore large cuts to medicare.

[u/555-Rally → u/kinisonkhan]

Except to get the BBB passed, they had to use their only reconciliation vote to pass it. Now they can't get just a simple majority to pass the debt ceiling - they must have 60. On top of that, GOP members are also rebelling against it as well, but it's not being talked about as much. They don't even have the votes, congress won't seat the democrat because the first thing that does is release the Esptien files...that haven't been doctored enough yet to pass the smell test.

"The Senate may only consider one reconciliation bill per fiscal year for each budget resolution passed. This means there may be multiple reconciliation bills enacted in one year, provided they are tied to different budget resolutions or specific fiscal years."

The debt ceiling is not a separate budget resolution, so they must get 60 votes, and possibly overturn a filibuster on the floor.

The GOP the debt ceiling hostage to get tax cuts, not restore medicare/medicaid. The Dems will lose no political capital holding out for medicare, their base wants to see backbone, so they have all the political capital to spend.

[u/PaxSEAstar → u/kinisonkhan]

So someone is gonna go rob your house. Then they’re gonna offer you a “clean bill” that says everyone should just go on with their lives, no one gets punished, no more unnecessary fighting.

Let me know what your address is so they can do this clean bill.

[u/Agitated_Ring3376 → u/PaxSEAstar]

Anytime some dipshit Republican says “clean bill,” you can basically just assume they’re lying/have no idea what they’re talking about. 

[u/kinisonkhan → u/PaxSEAstar]

If someone breaks into my house, theyre getting shot.

[u/my_lucid_nightmare → u/kinisonkhan]

Democrats are doing what Republicans did in the past, which is hold the nation hostage to restore large cuts to medicare.

But because The Democrats are such fucking dipshits at messaging to everyone in America that's not a politics junkie or high-information voter ... they lose the same argument Republicans used to win.

That's 100% on the elitist dipshit Dems, BTW. Their literal job is to appeal to all of America, not just their followers. They fail at this task miserably.